Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>]

The snag in living in tune with nature is we're part of nature, it's part of 
us. We are not separate and apart from it; that's where the problem lies.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
--Henry David Thoreau
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On 6/4/2010 at 8:48 AM Dan Conine wrote:

>Paul wrote: "What is 'living in tune with nature'?"
>
>My semi-scientific, logical answer is that all species produce some kind
>of usefulness for their (nature's) future over and above what they
>consume in resources. Erwin Schroedinger (yes, the guy with the cat in
>the box) called Life the "Anti-Entropy" force. For humans to be
>considered as 'in tune' with nature, they would have to collectively be
>putting more back than they take.
>Anyone who believes that some form of capitalism/democracy/humanism is
>going to do that is fooling themselves. Everything about our idea of
>'civilization' is oriented toward taking advantage of nature for the
>profit of humans until nature fails, then trying to 'fix' something up
>just to keep doing the same things.
>
>Lots of people like to say they 'want to live in tune with nature', but
>doing so goes against everything in the human imagination since we
>evolved it. To live in tune with nature requires that humans all get a
>lobotomy and become apes again.
>
>"This will all end in tears. I know it."  -Marvin the Paranoid Android
>
>
>
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