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I second the purchase of a Toyota if you want a basic auto that you can drive into the ground (and take forever to wear out -- the interior/exterior will come to look like it's been through hell while the engine/working parts are still purring right along), although I do love my PT Cruiser! And, go with a Blue Book *and* an up-to-date Consumers' Report on used cars and reference them, right in front of the salesman, if you like to watch 'em squirm. ... ... Watch out for Warranty requirements; that's the biggest headache I've had to deal with vis-a-vis my PT.

On 6/12/06, Matt Pusateri <mpusateri AT wickedtrails.com> wrote:

I will second the negoiate the price of the car, not the payment.  You
can either afford the car or you can't.  Don't let them put you into
you can afford this payment mode.  Definetly shop the same car you
want to buy at several dealerships, as to negoiate the best price.  If
you want the best price, don't make it an emotional decesion.  I
always try to find out what dealer cost is and shoot for something
close to that.  The dealers get rebates back on sales volumes so their
still making money.  Now it's hard to find out dealer cost, but
edmonds.com used to be good.  Be prepared to walk out the door if you
don't get your price.  The salesman *will* call you back and try to
close the deal.  Some dealerships will not deal.  Also do not
underestimate the value of a dealership being in close proximity to
work or home.  If you do have to take it in for service, it's nice if
you don't have to travel 1 hour away.  But you can always buy at the
dealership with the best price and then service locally.

Matt



On Mon, June 12, 2006 1:43 pm, uzoma nwosu wrote:
> I planning on purchasing my first car in the next couple of weeks.
> I'll
> probably sign up for consumer reports and some other sites as well.
> I'm
> looking at new as opposed to used but that's not written in stone.
> I'm
> looking for something under 16k, with good mileage and moderate
> pimpability
> factor.
>
> I'm looking for input as far as cars and dealerships are concerned.  A
> long
> time ago, a friend told me that women and minorities get scammed
> habitually.   Are there a dealerships that I  should avoid because of
> poor
> service?   Feel  free to  let  me  know  off-list.
>
> Note:  I'm not asking anyone to commit slander.  But if you back up
> what you
> say, I want to hear it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Uzoma
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