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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

I gotta tell ya, Drew.  Most doctors don't know from up when it comes to how 
fiscally or statistically a hospital operates.  Most doctors hire people to 
do all their recordkeeping beause they are clueless.

AND, what they don't seem to have taken into consideration is that 
*American* doctors carp continually about the government being in their 
business!  So, me think perhaps it is case of "the grass is greener" even 
when what is on the other side of the fence is actually brown.  See it all 
the time with cattle, sheep, goats AND humans.

Plus, as regards the stats.  A death is a death and how it is recorded at a 
hospital has little or nothing to do with where France places in the stats. 
France is burying folks in a pit somewhere and not recording deaths in 
total.  How hospitals use the deaths in their own stats is, of course, a 
whole other story and clearly shows that those two are not different that 
the vast majority I worked with and clueless when it comes to how things 
paperwise work.

Lynda
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."  Aldous Huxley

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Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?


> I asked that very question. They pointed out though that unlike their
> american counterparts, they don't have to carry personal insurance with a 
> 6
> figure pricetag and another policy for their practice. She indicated that
> their level of comfort is essentially the same as their american 
> counterparts
> once you take that into account. They have two houses, a huge flat in the
> city,  fancy cars, kids in pricey education institutions, all the 
> trappings one
> would  expect here. Yes, they might do somewhat better here financially,
> but it is the  government control of the system they really don't like. 
> Again,
> they point to  the fact that thousands of deaths every year are not
> factored in the statistics  anywhere. hospitals keep the records of death 
> but do
> not count patients that  arrive in a severe trauma state. They also do not
> perform autopsies anywhere  near as often as we do here as the healthcare
> system sees this as a waste of  money, so the cause of death may be cancer 
> or
> cardiac issues but listed as  natural causes.
>
> Drew
>
>
> In a message dated 7/24/2009 1:29:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lurine AT com-pair.net writes:
>
> Ah gee,  here we go agreeing again. <g> The stats prove the point of your
> last paragraph.  Doctors in France make 2x what most people  make.  In the
> U.S., doctors make 5 to 10x as much.  And some  make, net, millions.  It
> doesn't happen in countries with national  healthcare.  THAT is what the
> doctor is jealous  of!
>
> Lynda
> "Facts do not cease to exist because they are  ignored."  Aldous Huxley
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> > snip<
>
> > I think  your French family's jealousy might well be explained by the 
> > fact
> >  there's a doctor in the family.  In other countries being a physician
> > means
> > you are well paid in a respected profession, but it is  not a ticket to
> the
> > wealth you can turn it into in our  system.
> >
> >
> > James
> >
> >
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