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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>
  • To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?
  • Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:38:52 -0800

I gotta tell ya, Drew. Most doctors don't know from up when it comes to how fiscally or statistically a hospital operates. Most doctors hire people to do all their recordkeeping beause they are clueless.

AND, what they don't seem to have taken into consideration is that *American* doctors carp continually about the government being in their business! So, me think perhaps it is case of "the grass is greener" even when what is on the other side of the fence is actually brown. See it all the time with cattle, sheep, goats AND humans.

Plus, as regards the stats. A death is a death and how it is recorded at a hospital has little or nothing to do with where France places in the stats. France is burying folks in a pit somewhere and not recording deaths in total. How hospitals use the deaths in their own stats is, of course, a whole other story and clearly shows that those two are not different that the vast majority I worked with and clueless when it comes to how things paperwise work.

Lynda
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley

----- Original Message ----- From: <DSanner106 AT aol.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Has anyone heard about this?


I asked that very question. They pointed out though that unlike their
american counterparts, they don't have to carry personal insurance with a 6
figure pricetag and another policy for their practice. She indicated that
their level of comfort is essentially the same as their american counterparts
once you take that into account. They have two houses, a huge flat in the
city, fancy cars, kids in pricey education institutions, all the trappings one
would expect here. Yes, they might do somewhat better here financially,
but it is the government control of the system they really don't like. Again,
they point to the fact that thousands of deaths every year are not
factored in the statistics anywhere. hospitals keep the records of death but do
not count patients that arrive in a severe trauma state. They also do not
perform autopsies anywhere near as often as we do here as the healthcare
system sees this as a waste of money, so the cause of death may be cancer or
cardiac issues but listed as natural causes.

Drew


In a message dated 7/24/2009 1:29:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lurine AT com-pair.net writes:

Ah gee, here we go agreeing again. <g> The stats prove the point of your
last paragraph. Doctors in France make 2x what most people make. In the
U.S., doctors make 5 to 10x as much. And some make, net, millions. It
doesn't happen in countries with national healthcare. THAT is what the
doctor is jealous of!

Lynda
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley

----- Original Message ----- From: <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>

snip<

I think your French family's jealousy might well be explained by the fact
there's a doctor in the family. In other countries being a physician
means
you are well paid in a respected profession, but it is not a ticket to
the
wealth you can turn it into in our system.


James


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