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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Bob, also consider Chinese Pole Beans,,,,   
 
>From my Desert Gardening Book.... the love the heat, do well in AZ, and 
>climb u pto 8' tall.
No pests, no disease.  Can also be used as a screen to keep sun off of 
windows, or even use over trelises.  Prolific production.
 
SOOOOOOO, since I have a problem with the sun coming in my east windows in 
the summer.... a couple of weeks ago I built an angled trelise for Chinese 
beans to climb and provide shade over the windows....  Angled, at about 55 
degrees so I can walk under and pick the pole beans.... which will need to be 
done daily from the way it sounds.  
 
Pole beans, space savers to boot.
 
I'm going to plant a bunch of sunflowers off the south side windows to have a 
pretty view, as well as lots of seeds for munching on later, and will have to 
consider growing more beans on the west side, although I do have some trees 
on the west side that help with the heat/sun.
 
L
 
 


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--- On Sat, 2/21/09, bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: [Homestead] More spring palnting
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 12:15 PM

I just finished planting 3 sixpacks of bushbean plants that I bought at our 
best
local Nursery, yesterday afternoon.  Also, planted sveral yellow, red, and 
green
bell sweet peppers (4 " pots).  I have used up most of my garden spaces,
already and haven't even got my box of seed from gurneys.  I intend to plant
quite a few okra, and I will plant it all from seed.

To digress, though.  When I went to the nursery , yersterday, things seemed
strange, out and about.  The city and traffic was busy , as usal, but, thwe
stores were "dead".

Now, maybe it is because I rarely go to shopping centers or department stores
or really much of anykind of store other than hardware/outdoor or book stores;
but;

 I had ordered a few really good 'internet only' tool deals from Sears
and had to do a local merchandise pick-up.  The Sears is in a typical 
large-city
shopping center with many other stores, big and moderate size.

  I walked all the way thru the Saers to the Merchandise pic-up and there was
only 'one' other customer in the entire store.  The parking lot in front
of the Sears was basically empty.  Most of the other stores in that shopping
center looked the same  way.  Now, the Costco that anchored the3 end cotrner 
of
the center looked busy as usal; but nothing else.

Maybe this is typical for a Friday afternoon ?  I don't know.  But, Sears
would have been better off to Shut the doors, and most of the other stores
looked the same.

I went from Sears to my nursery, a few city blocks away, and it was jammed
packed.  Now, the vast majority of pweople were buying flowers and shrubs and
other ornamentals, but more people than normal were hanging out in the 
vegetable
section.  

One man's anecdotal Friday afternoon.  The city is busy, but retail looks
very slow.

Anyway, this post might show up immediately or in three hours, but I'm
finished planting for this am.............

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It is very difficult.� Even though I intentionally try to stay low profile 
since I object to all the government intrusion, I still find my name on the 
internet just doing a standard google search, which pisses me off.� People 
putting my name in facebook, reunion.com and the like, is a source I can't 
even control...... grrrr.
�
One thing some people do for internet access, is use a wireless and pay a 
neighbor to share their highspeed...... that way no invoice in their name.� 
Learned from the hoodie generation.
�
I know you're being facetitious, we're on the same page on the RFID and 
related type issues.
�
The most innocent of things can be flipped against ya if the gov't targets 
your ass.� Not to mention there is a changing mentality of guilty until 
proven innocent going on in this country.� Has been for years.� 
�
�
On the internet radio, there are tons of free channels, all different kinds 
of music.
I listen to music most days when working on things, makes the time go by 
faster when doing something tedious.� And an MP3 player works good when 
working outside too.� I'll check out the link.
�



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Don't have a wireless connection:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10168114-38.html

The proposed legislation is aimed at child predators, but anyone who
thinks it would stop there probably still believes in the Easter
Bunny.

Marie, who has been otherwise occupied and is still catching up on
mail (and it may take all weekend)

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM, bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> Leslie, thanks.  That was an excellent reply.  Perhaps I should buy what 
> the young folk call a 'hoodie' ?  ;-)
>
> Any more good ideas about remaining as anonymous in one's activities as 
> possible?  To do everything you just suggested would mean becoming what?  A 
> bum  ;-)  ?