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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fear & Loathing , new Peter Schiff interview, immeninent demise
  • Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:36:34 -0800 (PST)

LOL - you mean like take credit for the mandate to banks so more and more
people could get their american dream home,,,,, errrr dream nightmare?
 


--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fear & Loathing , new Peter Schiff interview,
immeninent demise
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 3:09 PM

Ah, your list belongs almost exclusively to GWB. And, I do wish folks would
pay more attention to history. A lot of the stuff that both Billy Boy and
Dumbya pushed through started with Daddy Bush -- NAFTA, NCLB, etc. Billy
Boy didn't really have all that many original ideas. It is amazing how he
gets credit for all those brain farts when he really wasn't much of an
original think. He was more of a take credit kinda guy and it is coming
back to bite him.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "bobf" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>


Not to get off on a tangent about GWB, and with you and Bev, I will agree
that the congress, bankers, moneychangers and such are all responsible for
the economy; but, we can't let GWB off the hook so easily -- or at least, I

won't.

He pushed a war in Iraq (with the compliance of congress) and didn't wage
it
effectively. He pushed through (with the compliance of congress) what
started under Clinton, but was made into full oppressive law in his
tenure -- H*mel*nd S*curity, P*triot A*t, F*SA, and much more.
GWB (with the compliance of congress) has diminished our personal liberties
and out freedoms -- that cannot be forgotten

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> >I believe quince stock is used more for pears than apples. The commonly
> available apple rootstocks (M26, MM111 & so on) are apple varieties.
>
>

I know that the M in those rootstocks are supposed to stand for "Malus" and
that Quices proper are an entirely different species. I based my commont on
two things, when talking to the orchardist who was teaching the grafting,
someone asked what would happen if you just planted the rootstock. At first
the
answer was vague but in the end orchardist said, "You'd not get an apple, or
at
least anything you'd recogize as an apple." "What would you get?" His answer
was that the rootstock was most closely related to quinces.


Some trees I grafted from the standard roostocks (semi dwarfing so I'm
thinking M106 or M111, it was a long time ago), on five of the trees the
whip died
but the roostock lived. I didn't need the space so I ignored them. For
years. Finally two of them bloomed and fruited. The fruit looked like
honest to
God quinces, oblong and ridged at the blossom end. They tasted terrible, I
don't think even the chickens would eat them.

It may be a matter of semantics. Those shrubs might have been Malus
Somethingortheotherius and genetically unrelated to quinces. I know that so
called
"Flowering Quinces" are not related to fruiting quinces.

Around here a lot of people graft pears to locust rootstock.




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