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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

LOL - you mean like take credit for the mandate to banks so more and more 
people could get their american dream home,,,,, errrr dream nightmare?
 


--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fear & Loathing , new Peter Schiff interview, 
immeninent demise
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 3:09 PM

Ah, your list belongs almost exclusively to GWB.  And, I do wish folks would 
pay more attention to history.  A lot of the stuff that both Billy Boy and 
Dumbya pushed through started with Daddy Bush -- NAFTA, NCLB, etc.  Billy 
Boy didn't really have all that many original ideas.  It is amazing how he 
gets credit for all those brain farts when he really wasn't much of an 
original think.  He was more of a take credit kinda guy and it is coming 
back to bite him.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bobf" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>


Not to get off on a tangent about GWB, and with you and Bev, I will agree 
that the congress, bankers, moneychangers and such are all responsible for 
the economy; but, we can't let GWB off the hook so easily -- or at least, I

won't.

He pushed a war in Iraq (with the compliance of congress) and didn't wage
it 
effectively.  He pushed through (with the compliance of congress) what 
started under Clinton, but was made into full oppressive law in his 
tenure -- H*mel*nd S*curity, P*triot A*t, F*SA, and much more.
GWB (with the compliance of congress) has diminished our personal liberties 
and out freedoms -- that cannot be forgotten

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> >I believe quince stock is used more for pears than apples. The commonly
> available apple rootstocks (M26, MM111 & so on) are apple varieties.
>
>

I know that the M in those rootstocks are supposed to stand for "Malus" and
that Quices proper are an entirely different species.  I based my commont on
two things, when talking to the orchardist who was teaching the grafting,
someone asked what would happen if you just planted the rootstock.  At first 
the
answer was vague but in the end orchardist said, "You'd not get an apple, or 
at
least anything you'd recogize as an apple."  "What would you get?"  His answer
was that the rootstock was most closely related to quinces.


Some trees I grafted from the standard roostocks (semi dwarfing so I'm
thinking M106 or M111, it was a long time ago), on five of  the trees the 
whip died
but the roostock lived.  I didn't need the space so I ignored them.  For
years.  Finally two of them bloomed and fruited.  The fruit looked like 
honest to
God quinces, oblong and ridged at the blossom end.  They tasted terrible, I
don't think even the chickens would eat them.

It may be a matter of semantics.  Those shrubs might have been Malus
Somethingortheotherius and genetically unrelated to quinces.  I know that so 
called
"Flowering Quinces" are not related to fruiting quinces.

Around here a lot of people graft pears to locust rootstock.