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[william Eggers <wce1482 AT yahoo.com>]

Well, lets see.  I grew up on a farm, but it was not like they are now.  We 
milked about 20 cows, raised a few hogs and chickens.  Then I also had my own 
dairy farm.  I also have had a garden for probably 40 years, or more. Almost 
every where I lived, I have had a garden.  Of course I have heated with wood. 
I have built my own house. Of course, I have raised most livestock you can 
mention.  And I have raised many of the crops that grow here.  Just because I 
don't live on a mountain doesn't mean I have not homesteaded.  I think you 
are kind of arrogant to think that you are the only one who knows how to 
homestead.  By the way, most of homesteading is farming. in case you didn't 
know.  
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From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 6:34 PM

> > I grew up on a farm and know how to do all things they are talking
about 
> and probably more.

I earnestly doubt it, William.  You grew up on a 'farm' not a
subsistence 
homestead.  I run into the 'grew up on a farm' credential all the time.
 Let's 
suppose you were materially involved in the farm by five or six and engaged 
in 
it until your majority, that would be 12 years.  Some of us not only grew up 
around farms and gardening but I've been at this for more than 30 years as
an 
adult, the past 20 it has been the primary basis of our family economy.   

You may be the uber-homesteader for all I know, but growing up on a farm 
won't be what made you one.


James
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> >If I understood the substance of his comment correctly... I would have to
> conclude the IT people conned business into spending billions of dollars to
> upgrade their software, so that the IT people could obtain wealth thru
> deception.  They cheated.

Leslie, essentially this is true and I was one of them.  I was working as the
jocky of a LIM's system which was part of an international data system
(GlaxoSmithKline) and the edict came down that every bit of digital equipment,
computers, HPLC units, laboratory scales (no, I'm not kidding) had to be 
certified
as being Y2K compatible.

It was utterly moronic.  It was exactly as if someone at a building site had
said, 'We need to know if these bricks we are using float or sink.'   Saying
that each brick weighted eight pounds wouldn't do.  They had to be dunked in a
tub of water in front of two witnesses.  So you dunk one and say "See, it
sinks, just like we said."

No, no, no, no!  You have to dunk every brick from every palate and certify
each brick individually.

What we did for Y2K certification was no less moronic.

I got tired of saying so and went with the flow.  I made a bundle!  Yes,
indeed.


James