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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
  • Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:45:35 -0800 (PST)

The argentine is named FerFal, you can google his name......

If you post specific questions about how you are planting, what you are
planting, mewention your zone, etc; there are very smart people who could
advise you in your gardening or livestock, etc

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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 9:22 PM
> Alone - I should have written that more clearly.... I am on
> my parents property, they are here,,,, but they are elderly
> and can not help me.... I have to do the work alone -
> myself.  Although my dad on the days he can walk out to the
> garage sits and explains to me how to do things.  He taught
> me how to fix a brake problem earlier this year (fun, except
> I'm not found of getting my hands full of mechanic
> grease).  My mom has been fairly mobile until this past
> month or so. 
>  
> I'm pretty strong, have stacked a lot of heavy hay
> bales most of my life for one... but I don't have the
> hand strength I used to have any more.  This year I've
> been recovering from knee surgery, and i have the good day
> bad day thing going on.  In time will need a knee
> transplant... and I'm definitely counting on being able
> to get that.
>  
> I had an Argentinian client, who's family was going
> thru that.  Somehow, the brother realized things were about
> the collapse and called his sister in Miami and asked if he
> couuld wire her all of their money.  Within a week or two
> the collapse happened.  Last I talked to them, they were
> shopping in Miami and shipping supplies to them, and that
> was just a couple years ago, as supplies were still hard to
> get.   
>  
> Was he able to use the gold in Argentina until he got out?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 11:00 PM
>
> Answers within, marked by asteriks
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>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >  
> > It's a lot cooler here than in your area
> (Phoenix?)  I
> > only used my A/C 10 days over the summer (when it got
> over
> > 100), and used a portable swamp cooler for about 10
> days. 
> > I've been heating up to 41-45, and just put a
> sweatshirt
> > on.  I'm doing this on purpose to make sure that
> > survival is possible without heat or very little
> heat.  My
> > fuel consumption is low - from March 08 - Dec any day
> now,
> > I've only used one tall RV sized bottle of LP for
> my
> > cooking/heating needs.  Same with my electric, very
> low
> > use.  There are solar powered fridge/freezers
> > available, pricey, but not a bad idea.  Solar water
> heat
> > is no problem here... LOL, until the winter.   
>
>
>
> ****** The above sounds like you are preparing in a smart
> way. If you can
> live without the pricier appliances, the rule is 'the
> simpler, the
> better'
>  
>
>
> >  
> > Hey, did you read the blip on Argentina basically
> seizing
> > pension plans a few weeks back (equivalent of IRA,
> 401(k),
> > etc).... I had read years ago that governments would
> resort
> > to that citing "in the national interest"
> type
> > stuff.
>
>
>
> ******* Yes I did. And, at one time Argentina was
> considered a great success.
> I have followed the travails, on the internet , of a man
> who lived through their
> first collapse. He has written about the crime, the
> gov't oppression;
> because of his experiences, and the fact that a cache of
> gold helped him to
> survive and to get out of the country and have the means to
> start a new life,
> makes him sort of a gold bug
>  
>
>
>
>
> > I even talked to a few other people I know from all
> over
> > the country to see if they were interested in moving
> to an
> > area together and working together.  No takers,
> yet....so
> > it is going to be tough alone.    Some people I talk
> to
> > don't even consider that there could be food
> shortages,
> > etc. just over the horizon. 
>
>
>
> ****** You are alone ?; I thought you had moved there with
> family or it was
> family land. Sometimes it is difficult for me to keep up
> with and remeber
> people's backgrounds and situations. There are many
> strong women on this
> list who may be able to advise you. As far as the
> "community" idea,
> give it more time, If that is what you want, other people
> have done it
> successfully.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bob ford
> <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> > To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:01 PM
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >  > Monied citizens have already been leaving, for
> the
> > past year or so, have
> > been getting their $ out of the country. One big
> money
> > manager for an extremely
> > wealthy European, who had been in US for years, moved
> > operation to Dubai last
> > summer.  They were going to go to UK and changed
> > > mid-stream.
> >
> >
> > Events are occuring and changing so quickly , it is
> like a
> > whipsaw to plan. I
> > have an acquaintance who months ago was talking of
> > relocating to Spain for
> > several years. Events in Europe changed his mind, but
> the
> > subsequent fall in
> > the Euro , again, changed his plans to a definite move
> to
> > Europe. He just
> > returned from a visit; I'm going to see him maybe
> this
> > weekend. I have no
> > intentions of leaving this country. I already wanted
> to
> > homestead in an
> > isolated rural area of the U.S., before this calamity.
>
> > But, I am curious to the
> > different ways that people intend to ride out these
> >
> events..............................................................
> >
> >
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