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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
  • Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:03:44 -0800 (PST)

Hey, were you peeking over my shoulder when I was writing the potato
questions?? LOL
 
When I ws a kid I was on a dairy farm, milking cows, mucking the barn,
bailing hay, and picking veggies, and canning.  Later, in FL I raised quite a
few meat and layer chickens, turkeys, pet rabbits, horses, and other
assorted.  But feed was delivered to me by the truck load from the feedstore
- I didn't grow my own feed... which is on the to-do list...
 
Livestock is the easy part --- it's the gardening I could never get done in
FL.. One year it was the neighbors peacocks munching on my tomatos... another
year the iguanas,,,, one year the flock of chickens was out and about, and
they discovered the guava tree and stripped the guava tree in one
afternoon...  and the horses and chickens used to fight with each other over
the mangos.  I was the pied piper of the animal farm.... they followed me all
over.  Although somehow the chickens knew when I was coming out for buthering
day.
 
None of that is the same as starting up from scratch though. 
 
My first batch of onions have popped up, so are two batches of garlic.
 
I do have quite a bit of material gathered, and as I start laying things out
more and more, questions will come.  I just don't know what the questions are
in advance...until the question pops in my head.
 
I was out gathering yucca stems for a while today.  I think they are going to
make great supporting poles for pole beans and tomatoes...  they won't get
hot like metal, and the best part is they are free, grow every year, but
don't decay.  Need to cut them into manageable lengths, etc.
 
Oh, decay,,,, that was a question I thought of but I wasn't home.... separate
post.
 
 
 
 


--- On Mon, 12/8/08, bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 11:45 PM

The argentine is named FerFal, you can google his name......

If you post specific questions about how you are planting, what you are
planting, mewention your zone, etc; there are very smart people who could
advise
you in your gardening or livestock, etc

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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 9:22 PM
> Alone - I should have written that more clearly.... I am on
> my parents property, they are here,,,, but they are elderly
> and can not help me.... I have to do the work alone -
> myself.  Although my dad on the days he can walk out to the
> garage sits and explains to me how to do things.  He taught
> me how to fix a brake problem earlier this year (fun, except
> I'm not found of getting my hands full of mechanic
> grease).  My mom has been fairly mobile until this past
> month or so. 
>  
> I'm pretty strong, have stacked a lot of heavy hay
> bales most of my life for one... but I don't have the
> hand strength I used to have any more.  This year I've
> been recovering from knee surgery, and i have the good day
> bad day thing going on.  In time will need a knee
> transplant... and I'm definitely counting on being able
> to get that.
>  
> I had an Argentinian client, who's family was going
> thru that.  Somehow, the brother realized things were about
> the collapse and called his sister in Miami and asked if he
> couuld wire her all of their money.  Within a week or two
> the collapse happened.  Last I talked to them, they were
> shopping in Miami and shipping supplies to them, and that
> was just a couple years ago, as supplies were still hard to
> get.   
>  
> Was he able to use the gold in Argentina until he got out?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 11:00 PM
>
> Answers within, marked by asteriks
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >  
> > It's a lot cooler here than in your area
> (Phoenix?)  I
> > only used my A/C 10 days over the summer (when it got
> over
> > 100), and used a portable swamp cooler for about 10
> days. 
> > I've been heating up to 41-45, and just put a
> sweatshirt
> > on.  I'm doing this on purpose to make sure that
> > survival is possible without heat or very little
> heat.  My
> > fuel consumption is low - from March 08 - Dec any day
> now,
> > I've only used one tall RV sized bottle of LP for
> my
> > cooking/heating needs.  Same with my electric, very
> low
> > use.  There are solar powered fridge/freezers
> > available, pricey, but not a bad idea.  Solar water
> heat
> > is no problem here... LOL, until the winter.   
>
>
>
> ****** The above sounds like you are preparing in a smart
> way. If you can
> live without the pricier appliances, the rule is 'the
> simpler, the
> better'
>  
>
>
> >  
> > Hey, did you read the blip on Argentina basically
> seizing
> > pension plans a few weeks back (equivalent of IRA,
> 401(k),
> > etc).... I had read years ago that governments would
> resort
> > to that citing "in the national interest"
> type
> > stuff.
>
>
>
> ******* Yes I did. And, at one time Argentina was
> considered a great success.
> I have followed the travails, on the internet , of a man
> who lived through their
> first collapse. He has written about the crime, the
> gov't oppression;
> because of his experiences, and the fact that a cache of
> gold helped him to
> survive and to get out of the country and have the means to
> start a new life,
> makes him sort of a gold bug
>  
>
>
>
>
> > I even talked to a few other people I know from all
> over
> > the country to see if they were interested in moving
> to an
> > area together and working together.  No takers,
> yet....so
> > it is going to be tough alone.    Some people I talk
> to
> > don't even consider that there could be food
> shortages,
> > etc. just over the horizon. 
>
>
>
> ****** You are alone ?; I thought you had moved there with
> family or it was
> family land. Sometimes it is difficult for me to keep up
> with and remeber
> people's backgrounds and situations. There are many
> strong women on this
> list who may be able to advise you. As far as the
> "community" idea,
> give it more time, If that is what you want, other people
> have done it
> successfully.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bob ford
> <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> > To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:01 PM
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >  > Monied citizens have already been leaving, for
> the
> > past year or so, have
> > been getting their $ out of the country. One big
> money
> > manager for an extremely
> > wealthy European, who had been in US for years, moved
> > operation to Dubai last
> > summer.  They were going to go to UK and changed
> > > mid-stream.
> >
> >
> > Events are occuring and changing so quickly , it is
> like a
> > whipsaw to plan. I
> > have an acquaintance who months ago was talking of
> > relocating to Spain for
> > several years. Events in Europe changed his mind, but
> the
> > subsequent fall in
> > the Euro , again, changed his plans to a definite move
> to
> > Europe. He just
> > returned from a visit; I'm going to see him maybe
> this
> > weekend. I have no
> > intentions of leaving this country. I already wanted
> to
> > homestead in an
> > isolated rural area of the U.S., before this calamity.
>
> > But, I am curious to the
> > different ways that people intend to ride out these
> >
> events..............................................................
> >
> >
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I've heard this before..
Here's my thing...why would I want to possibly waste a weeks worth of
sweet potatoes(or corn or whatever other good food to clean out/fatten
up) for enough meat for maybe two meals from a possum, assuming that I
liked it...
It is supposed to taste like rabbit, but I will pass on trying it...
I think I would eat my dog before I would eat a possum...at least I know
where my dog has been <vbg> ;)

Bev


bob ford wrote:
> You can catch a possum every night with a live trap. Then you feed
> them sweett potaoes (only) for several weeks. It is their nature to
> be filthy animals. The sweet potaoe regimen cleanes their flesh and
> innards and such. Then, you have a meal. Yum. (tell me how it
> tastes. I've caught many, but always traded possums and coons for
> rabbits, never actually tasted possum, myself)
>

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