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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

You ahven't even gotten your deer yet, and you are going to help defend your 
hamlet ?  Bev, I'm teasing, I just wrote to Lynn, I still don't think things 
have to become 'that' bad.  I see much bad, in the next several years, but 
not necessarily societal collapse.  I'm just trying to hear other people's 
opinions on what they think the best and worst case scenarios in 'their' 
world; which could be similar or dis-similar to mine.

Beleive me, no body in the city is sitting around planning how to best invade 
the rural hamlets to steal people's rutabaga harvests.  But, in this world 
where I live, even in nice, affluent, secure parts of the city; a person can 
be harmed or killed for his watch and (possibly empty) wallet.


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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld  -- feel free to ignore
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 3:49 PM
> To answer the first question...this is a very defensible
> area.  There is
> only one road in and out of here...it is easily blocked
> off.  It gets
> blocked accidentally with almost every storm, and the
> people who live out
> here are pretty much left to unblock it by ourselves...we
> are low
> priority on such things..in the past, our personal 911
> response time has
> been a minimum of 28 minutes..Anyway, if blocked,then the
> shortest walk
> becomes 2.5 mile walk, through the woods, creeks,
> ridges,,,,home turf to
> anyone(maybe even me) of the number of people who live here
> that decided
> to block the road...The woods are too thick for horses or
> bikes at
> present, so they would need a good machete, too.  From the
> state
> highway, which is 15 miles from the nearest town, there are
> two ways in,
> which again, can be easily blocked, and would be blocked,
> in the worse
> case scenario WTSHTF.  If it is blocked there, then the
> hike becomes
> more like 6 miles or 7 miles, through swampy terrain on the
> low side,
> steep ridge terrain on the high side.....that is from the
> South...From
> the North, East or West one would have a helluva
> walk/climb..no roads,
> just National Forest...like James said,,,billy goats and
> nosebleeds..lol(OMG, I said Billy Goats, didn't
> I?<g>..bucks bucks bucks!)
> I suppose someone could fly in on an ultralight, there are
> a few around,
>  or work their way through on foot with machete and/or
> horse or dirtbike
> or however they think they can get there, BUT like I said
> before,
> whoever has blocked the road will be watching and waiting
> out in the
> woods...
> 
> As to Ron, he doesn't do craft type items, although he
> has made me a few
> cutouts (like my Diggin' Dog) and some whirligigs.....
> He builds mostly
> furniture and cabinetry and canoes..he's a good
> carpenter, too....builds
> decks and such..
> He has made most of our decent furniture-will make a bed
> next...
> Judging by the prices of woodstrip canoes, I think we could
> survive if
> he built 3 a year...of course, there has to be a market for
> such, and in
> this economy, pleasure and decorative items are the first
> cuts we make.
>  Yes, some rich people buy wood strip canoes and hang them
> or mount them
> inside on the wall or from the ceiling...they never see
> water..they are
> indeed a work of art.
> 
> B
> 
> bob ford wrote:
> > Who is creating this construct that everyone will be
> on foot, and alone.  I think people watch too much
> television and read too many horror tales, still
> .............
> > 
> > p.s.  Bev, what kind of 'woodworking does Ron do? 
> Does he build cabinets or craft type items or what?
> > 
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> > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, EarthNSky
> <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> Point is, if one is walking from the city or the
> burbs,it's gonna get a lot darker and a lot colder
> before they get to me.
> > 
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