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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

'sounds to me that you do know something about economics.  I'll tell you a 
true story that happened ten or fifteen years ago, talking gov't and make 
work, etc.  My friend in Mesa, owned a bar/restaurant/liquor store 
establishment on Main Street in Mesa.  Now Mesa is heavily controlled by 
Mormons.  The largest Mormon Temple in the world -- outside of Salt Lake 
City, Utah,-- is in Mesa, AZ.

  My friend called me complaining about the mayor and the council.  The new 
laws requiring ramps at the corners of sidewalks (for wheelchairs) was in 
full swing.  So he calls and says, Bob , you know what theose Mormons on the 
council are doing (My friend is a Jew), he said "they have three white guys 
and two mexicans all standing around and watching one g-dd*mn n*gg*r dig the 
hole, and they've been in the same place doing the same thing, all week".  
That is how government jobs tend to sometimes work...................


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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld  -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 9:12 AM
> > By what you wrote below, and similar other of your
> writings, you seem to 
> > be in that group that really believes in the hard core
> version of 
> > TEOTWAWKI.  For most people in this country and most
> of the devoped world 
> > do 'earn their keep, 'shuffling' blips on
> a computer, or papers in an 
> > office, or otherwise "ass-sitter"
> professions and jobs; Or , they do 
> > simple service-industry jobs to service and provide
> for the shufflers and 
> > ass-sitters.  What are all of those people going to
> do?  Are we all going 
> > to kill each other?  Are we all going to start
> indivdual homesteads or 
> > communal 'communes' ?  Is the gov't going
> to just disappear?
> >
> We can only hope that most of it does. Weren't you the
> one who posted 
> something a while back saying that everyone should learn to
> farm? I'd like 
> to see a world where all the paper-pushers...or maybe they
> are electronic 
> blip-watchers today...have to acually produce something
> that someone can use 
> or eat. That's the problen I have with Obama's
> make-work plan (as you and 
> other have pointed out). Infrastructure is great, but if
> you can't sell it, 
> it doesn't bring in any money to pay the workers.
> 
> We've gotten too far away from producing products than
> people want/need. 
> We've even gone beyond a 'service economy', to
> the point where too many 
> people just shuffle the work that one little guy on the
> bottom did. I don't 
> know squat about economics, but I know that one guy doing
> the work for every 
> hundred that repackage/insure/tax/benefit from his work
> can't last for very 
> long.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth 
> 
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