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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: wce1482 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
  • Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:01:36 -0800 (PST)

I have two questions, bill

1) are you in the part of Iowa where it does 'not' snow?

2) If, the answer to question #1 is 'yes', do you have an old guest-house for
rent? :-)

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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, william Eggers <wce1482 AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: william Eggers <wce1482 AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 9:57 AM
> I think you maybe missing the point.  To get the economy
> back on track, the government is going to have to give money
> to someone to get it going.  Now they are giving money to
> the bankers with the idea that i will filter down to the
> workers and they will spend it.  So far the bankers have
> just used it to buy other banks or to bail themselves out. 
> The only way to get things going, is to get the money to the
> workers.  They are the ones who spend it and most of the
> economy works on their spending.  With the bankers, we just
> gave it to them.  A lot of people who think is was alright
> to give money to bankers think that workers should have to
> work for any money given to them.  So, a road plan.  If
> the government makes anything to sell, it undercuts
> business.  Regardless of how it is done, no recovery is
> possible until the workers have some money.  If they bail
> out the auto makers and do nothing for the workers, no one
> will be able to buy cars and
> the auto makers will by right back where they are now. 
> It does't make any difference if they make fuel
> effecient cars or not as long as most of the workers
> don't have the money to buy a car.  Well. so much for
> my spouting off.
>  
> However, I have been thinking that I have participated in
> the group for awhile and maybe I should tell something about
> mayself.  I am 65 and am married for the second time.  I
> have 60 acres, of which 35 is woods.  Before I got the
> farm, I was a psychologist.  I served in the Vietnam War
> and am a totally service connected disables veteran.  I
> grew up on a farm and have run a dairy, raised cattle, hogs.
> sheep, goats, chickens, geese, ducks and rabbits.  I have
> often had a big garden and have raised corn, sweet corn ,
> pop corn, soybeen, navy beans, wheat and hay.  I am now
> raising an orchard.  I have about a 1000 trees.  The deer
> help themselves to the trees on a regular bases.  I read
> somewhere that deer will not jump a fence if something is 6
> foot on the other side of the fence.  So I am starting to
> build 2 fences around the orchard 6 feet apart.  I raise
> sweet and sour cherries, grapes, blackberries, plums,
> apricots, peaches, nectarines,
> pears and apples.  Oh I forgot.  I live in Iowa. 
> Anything else you want to know, just ask.
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Gene GeRue
> <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:
>
> From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:24 AM
>
> > That's the problen I have with Obama's
> make-work plan (as you and
> > other have pointed out). Infrastructure is great, but
> if you can't
> > sell it,
> > it doesn't bring in any money to pay the workers.
>
> Degrade it as make-work if you will, the highway system is
> productive;
> it brings in much money through fuel taxes. Those
> eighteen-wheelers
> moving groceries from California to Pennsylvania pay
> serious and
> disproportionate contributions to the upkeep of highways
> that we all
> use. If those highways deteriorate that income decreases
> and those
> groceries on Pennsylvania supermarket shelves become more
> expensive.
>
> Another infrastructure plan addresses school and other
> government
> buildings' upgrades to make them more energy efficient.
> As Amory
> Lovins has long since proved, energy conservation is worth
> more than
> new energy production.
>
>
>
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