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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

You, then, really are forecasting a change that will not be recoverable - in 
our present definition.  You are concluding that we are about to become poor 
, as a country, to the point where we are hungry and homeless, and hopeless, 
as a country of people.

  Because, I will tell you James, most people in this country do not aspire 
to anything even close to what I aspire, let alone the life and philosophy 
that you have chosen.  Most people will burn this country before accepting a 
return to a hard, sweaty, hungry; agrarian life.

  Even actual 'poor' people (I know you say that adjective can apply to you, 
but not in my way of thinking -- you made a choice; and your life is content, 
real poor people are in much discontent)don't like to be without basic 
comforts, and the gov't has made sure those comforts have been available)

If what you are forcasting comes to pass, bullets will be far more valuable 
than gold, and I say that with no smile or sarcasm.  I hope you are being way 
too pessismisstic................................

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--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:

> From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Go ld  -- feel free to ignore
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:03 AM
> > 
> > >We came back after the North invaded our lands. 
> The Japanese came back 
> > after we made their living g-d bow to our bombs; the
> germans came back after we 
> > carpet-bombed them into nothingness.  And, we all
> became more 'ass-sittish' , 
> > not less.
> 
> Not an astute observation, if I may say.  The South
> didn't come back, it was 
> transformed radically and forever.  Japan did not come
> back, to see how 
> radically transformed it was after the war, read
> Fukuoka's One Straw Revolution.  
> And look how the German's came back ... for 40 years
> half the country wallowed 
> in Soviet style communism.
> 
> What's underway here is a great truning of events. 
> From the blip watcher, 
> paper shuffler point of view, it will seem as if everything
> good and worthwhile 
> has been swept away.  Form other points of view, it will be
> a welcome change.
> 
> What will happen to everyone?.... serious adjustments.  
> 
> And by the bye, your view that the paper shufflers are
> thriving is because of 
> your investment colored glasses.  Hundreds of thousands of
> them have lost 
> their jobs and will soon be devouring their gluffy assets. 
> People who live in 
> such a delusional world are very good at denial.  Many a
> geezer I know has seen 
> their stock based assets cut in half and yet they continue
> to draw the same 
> monthly amount from their annuity nervously hoping and
> believing in denial that 
> it will all turn around and all their money will come back.
>  On the surface 
> these people all seem as if they are just doing fine.
> 
> James
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