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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Saying they could have fought beside Custer or Sherman was not implying that 
they were great warriors.  read about Fort Mims. As you know, Custer and 
Sherman were , both, butchers............................

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--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 4:00 PM
> We don't look like all those folks who are supposed to
> be our cousins. Maybe it is the heat?  Besides, we don't
> have the cheek bones, don't have the nose, don't
> have the dark skin, don't have black hair.  Well, except
> for my mother, she had black hair <g>
> 
> Beaides, we'd be offended and think it was a slam to
> fight along side Custer.  He was a bit of a looser <g>
>  Sherman had no morals, so we wouldn't want to fight
> along side him either <g>
> 
> Lynda, who isn't being ornery, yet <<bg>>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford"
> <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> 
> 
> > Lynda's just being ornery .  Her people didn't
> fight.  Well , her people's cousins sure did in the part
> of the country where our people our from.  I have a cousin
> from pensacola who took us to a little place in alabama
> called "Fort Mims".  Those Indians could have
> fought beside Custer and
> Sherman............................................................
> > 
> >
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> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, EarthNSky
> <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:07 PM
> >> Lynda wrote:
> >> > I would say that some of it is genetic and
> the other
> >> is taught.  This
> >> >  thread would be a prime example of it being
> taught.
> >> All but you are
> >> >  arguing that it is somehow o.k. because that
> is what
> >> humans do.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Excuse me, but I never said warring or violence or
> >> aggression was okay,
> >> in fact, I clearly talked about morality and
> justification,
> >> in that
> >> violence to defend oneself is morally justified in
> our
> >> society.  After
> >> reading SusanJane's piece, I will allow that
> not all
> >> believe in self
> >> defense or resistance, but I think 99.9% of people
> on this
> >> planet will
> >> resort to violence to protect themselves or their
> family.
> >> 
> >> > I know that my heritage didn't even have
> a word
> >> for murder until the
> >> > invaders came along.  Yet the folks up the
> mountain
> >> did.  The folks
> >> > up the mountain were always fighting with
> other folks.
> >>  My people
> >> > thought it was crazy, a form of insanity
> <g> and
> >> to this day refer to
> >> >  the folks up the mountain as "those
> crazy
> >> ****."
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Your people may not have had a word for murder,
> but did
> >> they not have a
> >> word for kill?  When most people use the word
> murder, they
> >> mean
> >> pre-meditated, but kill doesn't imply that. 
> Perhaps
> >> your people had a
> >> word for kill and not murder.  Perhaps they had no
> >> experience with the
> >> pathological concept of pre-meditation, but they
> did have
> >> experience
> >> with the concept of hunting strategy and killing. 
> Is that
> >> the case?
> >> Besides, perhaps your people were correct that
> >> pre-meditated murder is
> >> pathological or symptomatic of insanity. (I
> personally
> >> think so)
> >> 
> >> And by the way, I am anxiously awaiting that
> English Muffin
> >> recipe.  :)
> >> 
> >> Bev
> >> 
> >> -- “Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear
> leads to anger.
> >> Anger leads to
> >> hate. Hate leads to suffering.”        Yoda
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