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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

O.K., I'll rephrase that.  It is accepted as normal.

They had no words for killing another human with any type of intent.  They 
made it a point to stay away from "those crazy ****" because "harm" would 
come to them if they were around them when they were being crazy.  I'd have 
to look up and see if there was actually a word for "kill."  I only remember 
Grampa, the uncles, the cousins saying they "caught" whatever, not that they 
"killed" a deer or elk or salmon or wild turkey or bear or whatever.

Lynda

P.S.  I am digging out recipes but youngest has everything in a 
discombooblated (is that a word, if it is I know I misspelled it) state as 
she is gearing up for Christmas cookie making.  Oh, and a yule log (jelly 
roll frosted to look like a log).

I promised to dig out my pizza dough recipes for someone else also.  I 
really will get to them.  I know you don't want the old "about that much, a 
handful of that, a shake of this" which is how I actually cook.  DH and 
youngest have followed me around and written the silly things down.  I know 
they are here somewhere <g>
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>

Lynda wrote:
> I would say that some of it is genetic and the other is taught.  This
>  thread would be a prime example of it being taught.  All but you are
>  arguing that it is somehow o.k. because that is what humans do.




Excuse me, but I never said warring or violence or aggression was okay,
in fact, I clearly talked about morality and justification, in that
violence to defend oneself is morally justified in our society.  After
reading SusanJane's piece, I will allow that not all believe in self
defense or resistance, but I think 99.9% of people on this planet will
resort to violence to protect themselves or their family.

> I know that my heritage didn't even have a word for murder until the
> invaders came along.  Yet the folks up the mountain did.  The folks
> up the mountain were always fighting with other folks.  My people
> thought it was crazy, a form of insanity <g> and to this day refer to
>  the folks up the mountain as "those crazy ****."


Your people may not have had a word for murder, but did they not have a
word for kill?  When most people use the word murder, they mean
pre-meditated, but kill doesn't imply that.  Perhaps your people had a
word for kill and not murder.  Perhaps they had no experience with the
pathological concept of pre-meditation, but they did have experience
with the concept of hunting strategy and killing.  Is that the case?
Besides, perhaps your people were correct that pre-meditated murder is
pathological or symptomatic of insanity. (I personally think so)

And by the way, I am anxiously awaiting that English Muffin recipe.  :)

Bev

--
“Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to
hate. Hate leads to suffering.”        Yoda
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