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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

I question my own beliefs on concepts like war as much as I do someone 
else's, like yours.  I believe that we simply haven't eveolved enough beyond 
our fellow primates for 'war' not to be an ever-present reality.  

But, I don't like the idea of conscription or 'un-necessary' war , or my 
relatives getting hurt in battle, or any children being hurt by my 'people' 
in battle.

Maybe the concepts of freedom and liberty are also un-natural to our biology 
and we are still trying to evolve


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--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 5:33 AM
> It's the same principle. I think a person should always
> have the optoin of 
> opting out of the system. Whether it's not driving on
> publilc roads, or not 
> going to some foreign country to kill people they don't
> know who never did 
> any harm to them...should be an individual choice. I know
> people who feel 
> that the government has 'stolen' the airwaves with
> the new HDTV requirement, 
> and refuse to get converter boxes...opting out of
> TV...their form of 
> protest. We will always have to accept SOME pubic
> services/involvement and 
> participate at some level (file tax forms, have a SS#,
> etc). I accept much 
> of it that because it's the price for living in a
> civilized country. I think 
> wars are stupid and unnecessary, but boys will be boys and
> will waste tax 
> dollars on their macho pissing contests, and if people want
> to sign up, 
> that's their business. Conscription in the military is,
> to me, the ultimate 
> invasion of one's privacy.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> 
> 
> > Who gets to make the decision concerning which war we
> should or should not 
> > be involved.  You just, yesterday, said that a man was
> wrong for not 
> > abiding by the instuctions of elected officials on
> what he must do to 
> > drive an 1/8 mile down a public street, do you now say
> that every 19 year 
> > old,and 22 year old,  and 25 year old gets to decide
> which battle or war 
> > in which they will personally participate?
> >
> > p.s.  A lot of smart people , including Sciott
> Nearing, thought we had no 
> > business in WWII, until after Pearl Harbor; and then,
> only with the 
> > Japanese
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:18 PM
> >> Rob; thanks for saying what I was thinking. I have
> far more
> >> respect for
> >> someone who refused to be involved in a war we had
> no
> >> business being
> >> in...and for me, that's every war since WWII.
> >>
> >> Lynn Wigglesworth
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Robert Walton"
> <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
> >> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] It's almost over
> >>
> >>
> >> > It's funny to see how people have judged
> >> presidential candidates on
> >> > their service or lack of it since Clinton. He
> was the
> >> first president
> >> > that came of age in the 1960s.
> >> >
> >> > I was a kid in the 60s, came into my teens in
> the 70s.
> >> Ever since I
> >> > remember, dodging the draft was a good thing.
> >> Sometimes I guess I'm in
> >> > my own world, but it's still funny to
> hear people
> >> talk about that
> >> > being a bad thing. Being a child of people
> that went
> >> back to the land
> >> > in the 60s, I just grew up thinking that
> burning drat
> >> cards was a
> >> > brave thing to do.
> >> >
> >> > It's really funny to hear people my
> parents age
> >> (old hippies) talk
> >> > about how Clinton or Bush didn't serve.
> Wasn't
> >> that what they admired
> >> > in the 60s? I guess not everyone did or they
> just
> >> forgot.
> >> >
> >> > I remember being 16 or so and a lot of the
> thought me
> >> and my friends
> >> > had was what a hard act our generation had to
> follow
> >> with the hippies
> >> > and the 60s and all. I don't think we did
> any
> >> better. I guess becoming
> >> > Yuppies was just as bad as being at the cusp
> and then
> >> forgetting you
> >> > ever got there.
> >> >
> >> > Rob - Va
> >> > Glad I did not do the Yuppie thing.
> >> >
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