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  • From: "Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
  • To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
  • Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:59:37 -0500

I only know what it's like here; anyone could fill up barrels with diesel fuel and pay cash without raising a single question. You can get receipts for cash purchases; I do it all the time for tax purposes.

I feel bad if reporting people is common where you are...it isn't here. But clearly you will believe what you want, what supports your world view.

Lynn Wigglesworth

----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"


Lynn, I already said I wish I hadn't used this poor example; but, still, I have to believe if a person strange to you, that wasn't an obvious farmer pulled up and started filling up barrels with diesel fuel, that something would be noticed. The 'reporting' even if not law, is becoming second nature for us; But, the records, the discovery will be there; through receipts, cameras, times-stamps, etc. Most farmers are going to need those receipts for t*x purposes, anyway

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--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 6:12 AM
> The whole deal is the combination, and I don't
think there are
> restrictions, just reporting requirements. You say
part of your family
> owns stations. If somweone that you didn't know,
pulled in in a rental
> truck with a bunch of barrels in the back and
proceeded to fil them with
> diesel, you wouldn't alert anyone (and what if you
knoticed the tons of
> fertilizer stacked in the >back)?.

Bob; what you don't realize is that what you decribe is
a common sight, any
spring day in an agricultural area. Farmers need the
fertilizer for their
spring planting of sweet corn (the field corn is usually a
large enough area
to get a hopper of fertilizer), and the diesel fuel to run
the tractor
(larger farms have the fuel delivered to the tanks on the
farm; smaller ones
transport it from the station). On the way back from
getting the fertilizer,
you drive up to the self-serve diesel punp, go in and hand
over the cash,
fill up your containers and leave. Unless the clerk knows
you, you are
anonymous, and the clerk can't see what's in your
truck from inside.

Lynn Wigglesworth

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