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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>
  • To: <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>, <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
  • Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:40:20 -0800

Ya know, I've been thinking about this and the computerized receipts and so forth. I used to manage one of the Kroeger owned mini-marts (Quik Stop) and we were computerized. The details are linked to inventory and they shoot totals at the end of the day. (Most aren't "real time" but rather "batch runs") The only tape that is kept is the days totals and those are run by category, so all fertilizers would come up with "a" total. It would be broken down to nitrogen fertilizer, phosporous fertilizer and so forth and so on.

The family store is computerized and it is run the same way.

The only way to track those sales would be via credit card OR if someone knew or remembered the person who bought the fertilizer.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"


My big issue with the tracking is that if you make enough noise about other issues , like GMO food, raw milk sales, etc., the people who trade information on you can use that information to make your life miserable. Those men could be corporate or gov't.

It is much easier to commit crimes, especially federal crimes, than most people realize. There are many new oddball crimes that just the threat of prosecutiuon can cause people to shut up. It is all about power and control. I don't really care if walmart has my picture, either (I think I've been in a wal-mart once in the past 25 years; but any large store will do); I do care if they can buy or trade personal information about me.

And, I do care about GMO food and your ability to sell raw milk; as you said; I have focused more on the one issue while, others, like you, have focused more on the other issues. And when I move to "nowhere", I intend to be more active than ever; if I can figure ways to do so anonymously.

And, what was said about everyone knowing your business in a rural area, ; If you don't already have 'people" there; they can only 'know" the information that you allow to be known, I would think. Most people in arural area ( like where I was raised) have generations of relatives, in-laws, and friends ; that know way too much about each other. anyway............

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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:


As Bob says, we all have our own issues. The men in the black suits could take my picture every time I leave my property, and it wouldn't bother me as much as GMO food not being labeled, or me not being allowed
to sell raw milk. People spying on me doesn't impact my life as much as people making laws that take away my rights.

Lynn Wigglesworth





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