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["Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>]

This article, dated Nov. 13, 2008 says that Homeland Security has proposed 
new rules, but implies that  they haven't taken effect yet.
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/11/13/homeland-security-will-track-fertilizer-buyers/

Lynn Wigglesworth
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: "Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>; 
<homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"


> Lynn , it was signed into law last December, The following was taken from 
> the 2005 Act and incorporated into the 2008 Act I guess it just took a 
> democrat congress.  ' from within the Act:
>
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>
> "Amends HSA to direct the Secretary to: (1) regulate the sale and transfer 
> of ammonium nitrate to prevent its misappropriation or use in a terrorist 
> act; (2) establish a threshold percentage for a substance to be treated as 
> ammonium nitrate; (3) establish a process by which ammonium nitrate 
> facility owners and ammonium nitrate purchasers are required to register 
> with DHS and are issued a registration number; and (4) require facility 
> owners to maintain a record of each sale or transfer of ownership of 
> ammonium nitrate for two years. Sets forth provisions regarding: (1) 
> exempting persons producing, selling, or purchasing ammonium nitrate 
> exclusively for use as an explosive material under a federal explosives 
> license; (2) ensuring that access of agricultural producers to ammonium 
> nitrate is not unduly burdened; (3) restricting the disclosure of 
> information obtained under this section; (4) inspecting and auditing 
> facility owner records to prevent the
> misappropriation of ammonium nitrate; and (5) timely reporting of the 
> theft or unexplained loss of ammonium nitrate.
> Prohibits: (1) buying and taking possession of ammonium nitrate, or owning 
> or operating an ammonium nitrate facility, without a registration number; 
> or (2) failing to comply with any requirement of this section. Prescribes 
> a civil penalty. Sets forth provisions regarding protections from civil 
> liability and preemption. Sets deadlines for regulations. Authorizes 
> appropriations. "
>
> ""H.R. 1680: Secure Handling of Ammonium Nitrate Act of 2007
> To authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security to regulate the sale of 
> ammonium nitrate to prevent and deter the acquisition of ammonium nitrate 
> by terrorists, and for other purposes.
>
> Last Action: Dec 26, 2007: Provisions of Measure Incorporated into Section 
> 563 of Title V of Division E of H.R. 2764. "
>
> H.R.2764   ...... Signed by the President on December 26, 2007
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> --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
> > To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 9:42 AM
> > If you read those links, they "urge" and
> > "request" that suspicious activity be reported.
> > The Secure Handling of Ammonium Nitrate Act of 2005 was
> > never passed into law. There are no reporting requirements,
> > as far as I could see.
> >
> > Lynn Wigglesworth
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford"
> > <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> > To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail -
> > "Orwellian future"
> >
> >
> > > Click on this link , Lynn.  This was a simple 7 second
> > search .  Still, I could have used better
> > example........bobford
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+are+the+reporting+requirements+to+atf+for+large+purchases+of+fetilizer%3F&btnG=Search
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Lynn Wigglesworth
> > <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I only know what it's like here; anyone could
> > fill up
> > >> barrels with diesel  fuel and pay cash without
> > raising a single question. You can get receipts  for cash
> > purchases; I do it all the time for tax purposes.
> > >>
> > >> I feel bad if reporting people is common where you
> > are...it isn't here. But  clearly you will believe what
> > you want, what supports your world view.
> > >>
> > >> Lynn Wigglesworth
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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