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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

James, look into 'Consumer Union's" new car price service.  I think it cost
$27.00 to run a car.  If it is fraud , file a class action against consumer's 
union, they have pleanty of money.  I do trust them.  I did eventually buy 
the car, not be being a good haggler, but just by being plain old stubborn 
and refusing to leave, knowing I was right.  If I told you the kind of car I 
bought, its options, and the price I paid including tax, you couldn't buy it 
at that price, and cars are cheaper now, because of the economy.  Trust me on 
this one thing ....bobford


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--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:

> From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Gene's guide to buying a new car
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 9:25 PM
> > > Now , neither of us are car salesmen, but I do
> know for what my car 
> > generally sells
> 
> "Generally" yes.  You intimated that you knew you
> paid $150 over the 
> "dealer's cost".  If it was a new car, you
> had no way of actually knowing that.  Even 
> a used car traded to or sold to a dealer also does not have
> the sale price 
> recorded anywhere in public records.  
> 
> You were basing you decision on a guess.  It might have
> been a very good 
> guess, it might have been an acurate guess, but it was a
> guess none the less.
> 
> My 'babe in the woods' comment is in reference to a
> belief that one knows 
> what a the actual cost of the vehicle is when they sit down
> to negotiate with a 
> dealer.
> 
> And, you are right, I am not a car salesman.  I'm not a
> grocery store bag-boy 
> either, and yet that does not preclude me knowing as much
> or more about the 
> cost of food as he does.
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