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[Clansgian AT wmconnect.com]

> > Now , neither of us are car salesmen, but I do know for what my car 
> generally sells

"Generally" yes.  You intimated that you knew you paid $150 over the 
"dealer's cost".  If it was a new car, you had no way of actually knowing 
that.  Even 
a used car traded to or sold to a dealer also does not have the sale price 
recorded anywhere in public records.  

You were basing you decision on a guess.  It might have been a very good 
guess, it might have been an acurate guess, but it was a guess none the less.

My 'babe in the woods' comment is in reference to a belief that one knows 
what a the actual cost of the vehicle is when they sit down to negotiate with 
a 
dealer.

And, you are right, I am not a car salesman.  I'm not a grocery store bag-boy 
either, and yet that does not preclude me knowing as much or more about the 
cost of food as he does.