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My understanding is (having learned german in Public schools, it may not be 
accurate that the genders were made permanent when Martin Luther translated 
the bible from latin into german (or had it done, whatever).?? So tell her 
it's all the fault of the lutherans?? <g>

Ray


As to German, youngest is learning it now and says it makes less sense and 
is a bigger pain in the arse than English ever thought of being.  Her 
favorite example of dumb language rules is that in German nouns have gender 
applied -- masculine, feminine and neuter (go figure) AND girl (madchen, 
can't do an umlaut on this computer) is neuter.




-----Original Message-----
From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com; homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Newsweek -- "A one point race" ?



Some prejudices are created by fear and the fear is created by the people 
themselves.  I know that as a child (3rd grade), we lived around the corner 
from a "holy roller" church (store front).  They had Wednesday night 
meetings there and it was frightening.  My little sister and I would be in 
bed and our window opened on the back.  Great for hearing the screaming and 
hollering.  I was 8 and she was 4.  Then one night a couple of us kids snuck 
out and went down the alley (ran behind the houses) to see what the noise 
was and that was even more frightening .

Now, I'm one who has easily outgrown my childhood fears but a whole lot of 
people don't.

As to German, youngest is learning it now and says it makes less sense and 
is a bigger pain in the arse than English ever thought of being.  Her 
favorite example of dumb language rules is that in German nouns have gender 
applied -- masculine, feminine and neuter (go figure) AND girl (madchen, 
can't do an umlaut on this computer) is neuter.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>


> Thanks for letting me know.  I'll be honest, I've never heard of the group 
> in which you were raised.  I will try to find some information on the web.
>
> I guess maybe it is like pentecostals being made fun of and called 'holy 
> rollers', etc.  Or maybe ins some areas Amish are laughed at.
>
>  I've never understood that kind of prejudice.  There are unusual tenants 
> in practically every religion, worldview, etc.  I have a friend that was 
> raised in a very old but small swedish religion of which I had never heard 
> (I can't remeber the name, it is some small branch of swedish 
> Christianity)
>
> p.s.  I took german one semester in college (I remeber nothing, except 
> that there are many similarities to english if you look closely).  Very 
> mean professor, everyone called "frau b*tch"  ......bobford
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/24/08, SJC <indexer AT localnet.com> wrote:
>
>> From: SJC <indexer AT localnet.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Newsweek -- "A one point race" ?
>> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:01 AM
>> bob ford wrote:
>> > Well I am confused Susan; I thought you were German?
>> It's none of my business, but I could have sworn that
>> you said, once, that German was your first language.  Who
>> malighns Germans? Well..........bobford
>> >
>> >
>> Hey, Bob!  Not all German-speakers are German!  Languages
>> show up
>> sometimes in what might be considered unexpected places,
>> for instance
>> Portuguese in Brazil.....German in Paraguay....Dutch in
>> central
>> Manitoba....Khmer in Minnesota.//.....VietNamese in South
>> Carolina......
>> migration, migration, migration...
>>
>> And it's not the language which drew/draws derision,
>> it's the
>> misunderstood people/group itself.  I grew up in an Old
>> Order German
>> Baptist Brethren, Lediite group in west central Indiana.
>> They spoke,
>> still do, a form of German.  They have been and often still
>> are, the
>> butt of many lousy laws, sordid minds, jokes, general
>> ridicule, and who
>> knows what else.  I understand to the core discrimination
>> and
>> prejudice....   It is still "home" and they are
>> still "my people",
>> albeit I've been gone these many years.
>>
>> Susan Jane, in Maine
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