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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Newsweek -- "A one point race" ?
  • Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:03:59 -0700 (PDT)

Well I am confused Susan; I thought you were German? It's none of my
business, but I could have sworn that you said, once, that German was your
first language. Who malighns Germans? Well..........bobford


--- On Thu, 10/23/08, SJC <indexer AT localnet.com> wrote:

> From: SJC <indexer AT localnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Newsweek -- "A one point race" ?
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 10:58 PM
> EarthNSky wrote:
> > In a way, it is voluntary
> > segregation, blacks returning to city where they are
> the majority and
> > rejecting integrated cities. Culturally, it makes
> perfect sense. They
> > have roots here, family here, and even the food has
> soul. ;)
> >
> Makes perfect sense to me. I grew up in a very distinct
> lifestyle from
> that of the rest of the country. I left at 15 in order to
> go to high
> school and live "like everybody else". To this
> day, despite the fact I
> left voluntarily, I am never more comfortable and relaxed
> than where the
> people speak "right", whether in English or my
> native language, where
> the food is somehow more familiar than that I've been
> eating for the
> last 50 years, where the social customs seem to be so
> "right" (and both
> human/humane compared to what I see on a daily basis now),
> where the
> clothing and hairstyles/cuts are so familiar it has drawn
> tears
> sometimes when I've gone to visit and momentarily had
> to remind myself
> that it was just a visit......I've often thought that
> on many levels I'd
> like to be living with or near "my people" again.
> It is, in fact, one
> of the reasons I've decided to relocate in the next few
> years: to be
> closer to an often much-maligned (by neighbors, media, just
> about
> anybody at one time or another) group of people. We all
> like something
> that makes us comfortable.
>
> Reminds me of what happened right after forced school
> segregations in
> the north. Many people hated it, not just whites, but of
> both races.
> No one changed their social allegiances, nor for that
> matter, activities.
>
> If you have a dozen red chickens and bring in a white one,
> she's a
> goner. Same thing if the colors are reversed. Have a
> dozen white, or
> black, or whatever color, chickens and bring in one that
> looks just like
> them, she'll eventually be one of them, albeit at the
> bottom of the
> pecking order. Sometimes I wonder just how different we
> humans are.
> I'm definitely one of the most tolerant (of personal
> differences of all
> kinds) people in my neighborhood, but I'm also the one
> who is "out of
> the water" here. Once in a while (admittedly it's
> usually when I feel
> provoked by someone/something that went on) I catch myself
> wondering if
> I came by that tolerance by way of wanting not to be shut
> out....I
> didn't do such deliberately, but it may be that
> I've done in nevertheless.
>
> I did, however, very deliberately teach my kids tolerance
> for people and
> their differences, and I'd say 2 of them are very
> tolerant, the other
> about at the level of his mother. One of my kids has ever
> since he left
> home lived, by choice, where there were few Caucasians and
> no native
> English-speakers. He is now contemplating moving back to
> where more
> folks are multilingual, and recently he noted that one of
> the stresses
> of the past 20 years has been that wherever he's lived
> he's occasionally
> wished for "somebody who thinks like I do" and
> when queried about that
> comment a few months ago, it turns out to be that what
> he's missing is
> the verbal expression of a value system, certain
> child-rearing practices
> he doesn't see where he is/has been, other things that
> basically to him
> say "home", "my people"......
>
> So it seems a natural thing to me to want to be with
> one's "own kind of
> people".
>
> Susan Jane, in Maine, where she just spent 2 days with
> visitors, old
> friends, from New York City, which is always fun and
> exhausting. If I
> had to move at that pace I'd have been dead long ago!
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