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  • From: "David Bartholomew" <dbartholomew AT gmail.com>
  • To: "RTP-area local music and culture" <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking
  • Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:47:23 -0400

I prefer my danger to accompany a PBR not a rifle, I do love Pogue cover
bands though...

All I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with a business
courting/servicing smokers. Perhaps a sign that reads 'Smoking
Establishment: Enter at your own risk' and a disclosure statement on all job
applications and booking contracts that says the same legally.

I'd still go to a non-smoking 506, and I'd understand any decision based on
health or business reasons. Owners and customers should have a right to be
either though, no? It's not a 'Right' to go to a non-smoking 506, is it?

D

ps: don't even try to peg me as a libertarian...


On 8/22/07, grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> If you want danger, have you considered 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a
> year in your local National Guard? I hear smokes are cheap at the PX ;-)
>
> I don't even think it's the hardcore pack-a-day smokers like Hepler who
> are the primary problem, it's the freaking "I only smoke when I go to
> bars" smokers who don't even inhale, they just light the fucking thing
> and then hold it at arm's length & periodically practice their
> ash-flicking skills. There are probably 2 of them for every 1 Hepler.
>
> And the hardcore smokers are used to being forced to go stand in the
> rain to smoke, because they've been doing it at work for years now. The
> fashion smokers haven't had the opportunity to be trained . . .
>
> Hey Dave, how about we nonsmokers cede the Irish Pubs to you & your
> smoking posse? I'd happily let you have the James Joyce and The Bull
> McCabe's forever & ever amen. I hear the Joyce is even having bands now
> & then nowadays . . .
>
> David Bartholomew wrote:
> > I have to say...I don't find the smell factor to be a convincing reason
> at
> > all. Clear the smoke and the 506 is still going to smell like beer,
> sweat,
> > and piss. The health factors on the other hand are pretty straight
> forward.
> >
> > So..if you are going to do it for health reasons, you pretty much have
> to
> > ban smoking, not limit it to the bar. I can't imagine that passing
> through
> > that small space for drinks, bathroom use, and enter/exit can be much
> > better for your lungs/heart.
> >
> > As a smoker, it is a bit sad to see all of these places go non-smoking.
> > Where's the danger? Can't we have a rock club too? Can't the non-smokers
> > stay home? If you can't smoke at the 506 at 1 am on a Friday night than
> > where can you smoke FFS?
> >
> > There certainly are reasons to stay a smoking club and all of you
> > non-smokers know what you risk upon entry. Regardless, it is going to
> happen
> > sooner or later anyways (even in NC) and it probably does make business
> > sense. Maybe James and I should just finally quit.
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> > On 8/22/07, Lisa Bachelder <lisa AT fuzzsonic.com> wrote:
> >> Finally. Baking AND rock. My dream job.
> >>
> >> <sigh>
> >>
> >> lb
> >>
> >> grady wrote:
> >>> But what if Glenn installed a little oven and just actually *baked*
> >>> cookies on & off throughout the evening? How many of y'all would be
> >>> irresistibly drawn to spend $1 on a piping-hot chocolate-chip cookie
> at
> >>> 1:00 a.m.?
> >>>
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