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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- From: Terry Hancock <hancock AT anansispaceworks.com>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:11:34 -0500
Mia Garlick wrote:
this is not a productive line of ongoing discussion.
*Smile* when you try to suppress the democratic process by squashing dissent under the iron boot of the Creative Commons ruling junta. ;-D
Seriously, I think it *is* productive, because I still don't buy your argument.
Part of the problem, of course, is that the DMCA anti-circumvention is *fundamentally* absurd: it's about outlawing wirecutters instead of outlawing fence-cutting. And that's just stupid. But even if you were going to write such a law (ironically, I think we still have a law like that on the books somewhere -- or so various trivia books claim), it will be pretty obvious that there are certain exceptions to it (*I* interpret the clause in question as a codification of those obvious exceptions). Obviously, you needed wire cutters to put the fence up in the first place, as well as to move or cut a fence you have a legitimate right to move.
Clearly, if I then take the same wire cutters and cut my neighbors' fence, I'm going to be in violation -- but that's a different matter.
What we're asking for, essentially, is a license that says "I'll let you use this pasture of mine. I'll even let you put a fence around it. But you have to promise to let anyone cut that fence in order to get to the pasture".
This may make it rather pointless to put a fence up in the first place (good!), but if there's some technical reason why a fence must be put up (e.g. to keep the cows in during normal use, or because there's a county ordinance that says 'all pastures must be fenced'), then he can keep his promises to both me and the county, while still promising the access that I insist on, and not having the cows wander.
This allows pastures to remain free, even in counties where fence ordinances are piling up.
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Terry Hancock (hancock AT AnansiSpaceworks.com)
Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses,
Greg London, 09/24/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses,
Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses,
Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses,
Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Peter Brink, 09/27/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses,
Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses,
Greg London, 09/24/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
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