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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- From: Terry Hancock <hancock AT anansispaceworks.com>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:49:13 -0500
Mia Garlick wrote:
your response assumes that it is iTunes that puts it on the track.
in the hypo given, it is Benito who puts it n the track...why should
iTunes' DRM be vulnerable just because some random third party puts
it on Alejandra's track?
also, it is beyond comprehension that the DMCA laws were introduced
to allow party A to authorize circumvention of an unrelated party
I's DRM.
I think we all agree on that.
> the consent provision can only, logically be read to
authorize party I to authorize select people to circumvent party I's
DRM so that it is not always a violation of the law to circumvent
DRM; you can circumvent DRM with the consent of the person who
authorized the DRM being put on the work.
So far, so good.
> using the hypo names
given, the law should be read to mean that: Alejandra can release a
work under a CC license with her DRM on it and then authorize people
to circumvent it...that is a far cry from Alejandra authorized Carlos
to circumvent a third party DRM applied by Benito...
EXCEPT: Benito is ONLY authorized to apply DRM in the first place, if he consents to ALSO authorize that DRM to be decrypted (for that work).
This is the copyleft concept again. Once again, the only thing that gives Benito the right to apply the DRM, is the license, which itself insists on Benito agreeing to certain terms, including the consent. If he doesn't agree, then he can't apply the DRM in the first place.
None of this gives anybody the right to access other people's works on the same device, even if, by chance or design, the decryption key is the same as for the CC licensed work.
The point of this provision, of course, is to make DRM legally toothless for the work in question, so in that sense, it may seem silly. But the reason is clearly that there may be *technical* reasons why only a DRM'd file can be used on a given platform -- which would be the reason why Benito would be interested in applying the DRM, even though he knows it doesn't buy him any exclusivity.
Consider this analogy...
If I buy a house in a housing development, and I accidently lock myself out, I'm still entitled to access my home. I can do this by calling a locksmith to "crack" the lock on my house, making me a new key in the process.
Now even if it turns out that my new key will open every other house in the development, so that my new key would allow me access to everyone else's house, we can conclude that my housing developer is very stupid, but this can in no way be considered my concern. I still have a right to access the house.
Likewise, the fact that, in principle, the same locksmith could defeat any lock, whether I have legitimate claim to the access it is protecting, isn't really relevant. Yes, that's what locksmiths do.
Likewise, wire clippers can cut any fence, but I am entitled to cut my fence, while cutting someone else's is a crime.
Cheers,
Terry
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Terry Hancock (hancock AT AnansiSpaceworks.com)
Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Peter Brink, 09/27/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/27/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Evan Prodromou, 09/27/2006
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