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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- From: Peter Brink <peter.brink AT brinkdata.se>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:33:13 +0200
Terry Hancock skrev:
How can the law possibly care who made the fence? Almost no one makes their own fence wire. Surely if you put up a fence, it's your fence, not the fence-maker's fence?
In this case the "fence" is a piece of software and a such it's the property of its copyright holder. When A uses B's DRM software to create a DRM version of one of A's texts, A licenses the right to use B's "fence", there is no transfer of ownership.
Likewise, if I applied TPM technology A, produced by "TPM-Corp" to my file, then surely I am entitled to remove it at will?
Yes, but not to crack it open...
Likewise, I may enter into an agreement to authorize others to remove it -- in this case, as a condition for having been able to apply it in the first place.
You are not at liberty to allow third parties rights to TPM-Corp's property. A construction where TPM-Corp has entered an agreement with *you*, with the meaning that *they* must allow downstream users to crack open a fence that they (TPM-Corp) has applied would work. But in the situation where TPM-Corp has no agreement with you and their "fence" is applied because a downstream user A uses a service that they provides then you cannot give downstream user B permission to crack open TPM-Corp's fence. In this case TPM-Corp is outside the scope of the license, it's A that has violated the (present 2.5) license, not TPM-Corp.
/Peter Brink
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Peter Brink, 09/27/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/26/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/25/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/26/2006
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