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[JP Piers ( drinou ) <f5nlg AT tiscali.fr>]

le Tue, 15 Apr 2003 18:33:56 -0500 (CDT)
James Miller <jamtat AT mailsnare.net> écrit:


> Just a point of clarification.  I've been with BL for a couple of years
> now, and know it to be a distro developed pretty independently of any
> other (except, of course, Slackware).  Since Steven has released the
> latest update (to 2.0), someone who is developing another smallish distro,
> and one that happens to be based on the same Slackware version (7.1) as
> BL, has appeared - JP, who has made several posts to this list.  It seems
> like these 2 distros, though almost entirely independently developed,
> could be actually quite complementary.  It seems that binaries developed
> for one may well work "out of the box" for the other.  But it is important
> to note that, as of now, this is more or less coincidental.  Steven is
> not, so far as I know, making concerted efforts to develop BL to be
> complementary with JP's distro, nor is, likely, JP, tailoring his distro
> and binaries to be compatible with BL.  I would think that, unless these 2
> developers decide to merge their distros, the best thing each might do
> along lines you've suggested, is to link to one anothers' sites, and to
> mention that binaries or other components found on that other site might
> well work with the distro promoted at the site linked from.

Hi James and the list

In the same order of idea : 


For me BL is a marvelous small distro and i like the phylosophie of it. mines 
are much bigger than BL ( about 105mb for drinou-linux , 45mb for loopham and 
45mb for sonnyou ) drinou-linux is the more "user friendlyé" but
but only  in french profiles, man pages etc ... ) 

sonnyou is a general purpose text linux distro the home page of drinou and 
sonnyou in french is http://217.109.169.18/drinou
loopham is an ham-radio text linux distro ( french and english ) the home 
page in french and english is http://zipham.free.fr then choose loopham. the 
core of the 3 distrib is verry similar (slack 7.1 :-)
 

Changing all the times in libs is not a good think ( my point of view ) 
that's a Linux developpement error and libc 2.13 is very stable. The best way 
to learn linux is to start by the text mode as BL do then having more tools 
that's the deal of sonnyou and finaly have a complete X system like drinou.

For me, exchanging more with BL, ideas etc.. ,learn some things like 
plip,kermit ... on this list is very nice.

An interesting developpment plans should be for example BL became the small 
linux install program and the "core" of drinou-linux or sonnyou distrib but 
if you are interesting in that we need to work together for keeping a good 
compatibility (i use a similar way as BL do for installing drinou-linux), for 
example i have a very bad network support but i have midnight commander on my 
small linux install distro, i used busybox so i can't give the core to my 
distro etc ... on the other hand i can help to make an bootable iso of BL as 
you now on new PC's there is no DOS so it's not possible to boot BL. If i 
found some people to help me translate sonnyou in other languanges (english, 
spanish ..) and docs i will do it ( sonnyou is intended to be a small linux 
server in text mode with firewall, web server, ftp, irc, jabber etc ... for 
home users or small office )

Maybee we can plans to make something with tgz-get for BL and others slack 
7.1 disro or to expand the possibility of BL. the major difference between 
original slack 7.1 and  my distrib's core is i used kernel 2.2.19 who support 
some usb hardware. like webcam, zip drive, printers etc  and i have plans to 
change to 2.2.23 for a better usb support as usb modem, adsl etc but no plans 
for now on 2.4 kernel ...  

The deal should be starting with BL , become BL-Sonnyou then finaly BL-Drinou 
a "modular" linux ditrib more easy to upgrade ( tgz-get ? )than for now with 
packages from slack7.1 . The other advantage i see is to combine our efforts 
and knowledge. 


excuse me for posting this big mail on list but i dont know exactly how many 
people work on BL 

you can reply in private if you want at f5nlg AT tiscali.fr

cheers 

Jean-Philippe

> > information and the number of baslinux emails is overwhelming.
> >
> It should also be mentioned that the BL list was very quiet for some
> weeks.  Only recently has a flurry of activity erupted.  I'm not sure you
> should think of 40 emails per day as any kind of standard for this list.
> 
> James
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I hope i`m not totally OT here, but I need some help in installing a system to
a very small harddisk. If this is an exculpation, i`m no sysadmin but only an
user with some limited experience in linux. So my problem :
I have an old notebook -Compaq Contura Aero 4/25 CPU 486 8MB Ram 170 MB
harddisk - wth dos 6.2.2.After retirement I`m starting on some voyages for
several month and want to take it with me for getting and sending e-mails.
With t-online one can do it via webmail.Is BL the right thing for me ? The
notebook has no diskette or cdrom, so the system must be installed on HD.

Any help will be appreciated

otto
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Otto Werner wrote:

> I hope i`m not totally OT here, but I need some help in installing a system 
> to
> a very small harddisk. If this is an exculpation, i`m no sysadmin but only 
> an
> user with some limited experience in linux. So my problem :
> I have an old notebook -Compaq Contura Aero 4/25 CPU 486 8MB Ram 170 MB
> harddisk - wth dos 6.2.2.After retirement I`m starting on some voyages for
> several month and want to take it with me for getting and sending e-mails.
> With t-online one can do it via webmail.Is BL the right thing for me ? The
> notebook has no diskette or cdrom, so the system must be installed on HD.
>
> Any help will be appreciated

I'll take a shot at this, with the caveat that others (e.g., Steven,
Chris, Howard) who are much more knowledgeable about BL on this list will
be able to add to or correct what I say.  For the notebook in question,
you would need to use BL1.x.  BL2 needs at least 12MB RAM, as I recall.
Size-wise, using BL1.x will work fine - you have/can make plenty of space
on the hard disk for it.  The problem will be whether it can do other
things you want.  One possible problem would be your internet connection,
and whether BL could get you connected to your provider.  Almost certainly
you'll have a PCMCIA modem or LAN card.  PCMCIA is not implemented by
default in BL.  I've read posts by those who've gotten it working by
installing a module, as I'm remembering.  But there are some technical
challenges in doing this.  Perhaps those who have tried this, or remember
particulars about those instances when someone else tried this, could help
in accomplishing that part.  But it seems to me you should expect some
challenges in getting this part of it working.  The other potential
problem might be working with webmail.  BL can give you a GUI (Xwindows)
with which you can use a graphical browser to surf the web and check
email.  It will run in 8MB as I understand it, though slowly.  And you'll
definitely need to set aside some disk space (8-16MB?) for a swap
partition if you want to use Xwindows.  Another potential problem is
that BL uses a pretty old browser - Netscape 3.04.  You're pretty much
stuck with that for a graphical browser.  It doesn't handle java very
well, so if your webmail interface uses any java, the browser may not work
for checking email.  If java is not necessary for checking/viewing
mail, then Netscape 3.04 should work fine - as should Links, the
text-mode browser included in BL. However, if your webmail allows POP
connections, BL has a mail client that can download messages from a pop
server.  These are just some introductory remarks on your inquiry.  Others
onlist may have something to add or may correct something I've said.  Hope
this helps.

James
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Slackware 7.1  glibc6 2.1.3 - 776K
Slackware 8.1  glibc-solibs-2.2.5  1,273K  (nearly double)
Slackware 9.0  glibc-solibs-2.3.1  1,018K  (smaller!!!!)

Why is the later library smaller than the earlier one?

For more info on Russian fonts a friend recommends:

www.siber.com/sib/russify