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[JP Piers ( drinou ) <f5nlg AT tiscali.fr>]

Hi all,

just some tries about small web browser ( working on a 8-16mb ram machine ) 
they are all fast i tried also cheetah who seems interesting but it crashed 
for me with a segfault after downloading the page.

the MiniX-1.1.tgz package also contain a browser ( chimera ) but it's not a 
very nice one 

( sorry for this big message but i think it's interesting )

they needs this libs :

gzilla exist in binary package ( choose static )
ldd gzilla
        libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x4001a000)
        libgtk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x4003a000)
        libgdk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x4014f000)
        libgmodule-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x40180000)
        libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x40183000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401a4000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x401a7000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401b4000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40255000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40272000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

and for dillo 7.1.2

dillo 7.1.2 will be in binary at my web site tomorow libc6 2.1.3
ldd dillo
        libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x4001a000)
        libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4003a000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40061000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40070000)
        libgtk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x40082000)
        libgdk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x40197000)
        libgmodule-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x401c8000)
        libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x401cc000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401ed000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x401f0000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401fc000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4029d000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x402ba000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

but the nicest who do frames, javascript, pictures, download in ftp/http etc 
... is links 2.1 who work in console mode and X and requiered less library 
than the others
 
links 2.1 on binary is on my web site.
ldd links
        libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x4001a000)
        libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40047000)
        libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x40066000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4008d000)
        libgpm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0x40090000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40096000)
        libvga.so.1 => /usr/lib/libvga.so.1 (0x400b3000) -------------------- 
only need if you want graphics in console mode
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400fb000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4019c000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40286000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
        libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40295000)

 cheers 

Jean-Philippe
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> After about an hour of experimenting, we have transferred the files
> needed to load X from the DOS computer (downloaded via 33K modem)
> to the BL2 computer (which until yesterday had a 14.4K modem) using
> Kermit and a blue nullmodem cable.
> 
> Needed: (blue?) nullmodem cable, Kermit on both DOS and Linux computers.
> 
> Page 38 of the DOS MS-Kermit manual and nearby pages explain how to
> hook things up physically (such as be sure you have com ports and that
> the cable is plugged into the one you have chosen).  'If your computer
> does not have a communication port you'll have to get one at the computer
> store'.  Fortunately we had already tested our hardware using a real
> terminal (without VT100 emulation - not very useful).
> 
> First thing you need to do is remove the # from the line in inittab
> s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 19200 ttyS0 vt100.  This I think
> lets you log in from a real terminal as a fifth login in addition
> to the four virtual terminals (c1-c4).  Thanks for including this line,
> Steven, it probably saved us a few hours.
> 
> I think perhaps the 19200 could be changed to 115200 for fast serial
> ports (as are found in most 486s and later).  My DOS Kermit is set
> to VT320 and probably I could have set the line in inittab that way too.
> 
> Load Kermit on both computers:  type kermit at the linux end, and
> the name of the exe file at the DOS end, such as msk31610 for my
> beta version of MS-Kermit 3.16, followed by Enter key.   (By the way
> a friend of mine waited a while after putting in the second BL2
> disk of the floppy disk version because the instructions did not
> say to press Enter after inserting that disk).
> 
> You can probably leave mscustom.ini alone (I had changed from
> Com2 to Com1 in it) as the following lines will override it.
> 
> Follow the DOS instructions on the DOS computer with some changes:
> set port 1   (for Com 1 - otherwise set port 2 for Com2)
>                 (assumes you don't have any off-brand IRQs, etc.)
> set speed 115200 (not 9600 as suggested in the book)
> set local on
> set term newline on (what does this do?)
> connect
> 
> There may be similar instructions for the C-Kermit version but I
> just modified the DOS version:
> 
> set line /dev/ttyS0  (com 1 in the linux machine)
>                      (I had figured this much out when dialing with Kermit)
> set speed 115200
> set local on
> set term newline on
> (You then get a message telling you not to wait for carrier signal by:)
> SET CARRIER-WATCH OFF (does it need to be capitalized?)
> 
> To receive a binary file, I then type at the C-Kermit (linux) end)
> bin             (binary file)
> receive         (it is then waiting to receive)
> 
> At the DOS end I typed Alt-X, push (to shell out of Kermit to  DOS)
> and then CD'd to the directory with the files, exit to get back
> to Kermit prompt and then typed:
> send  filename.tgz  (or x*.tgz for all the x*.tgz files)
> 
> It sent all the files and then I exited Kermit at both ends.
> 7.4K per second via null-modem cable.  It might be faster to
> use a parallel cable for file transfer but I don't know how.
> 
> Anyone want to explain how to transfer files without Kermit?
> Can it still be done via serial cable, perhaps with tftp, having
> loaded RAMdisk BL2 on the DOS computer?  Via parallel cable?

There are two relatively simple solutions:  one DOS-DOS
and the other BL-BL.  If you have MSDOS on both computers, 
you can use interlnk/intersvr to transfer files.  One runs
intersvr and the other puts device=c:\dos\interlnk in its
config.sys. This method is pretty fool-proof and works 
automatically with either serial or parallel.  

Slightly more complicated is the BL-BL solution.  Using the
template in netsetup, establish a PLIP (for parallel cable) 
or SLIP (for serial cable) network between the computers.
Do a ping to be sure it's working.  Then execute 'receive'
on one computer and 'send' on the other

As for a DOS-BL transfer.  The only way I can think of is
to used a DOS packetdriver to set up a TCP/IP network and
then run a DOS server (HTTP, NFS, FTP) that one of the BL
clients can access.

> I think we have accomplished the most difficult part of installing X ;)
> 
> As regards upgrading a library, can you simply download the .tgz file
> for the new library, unzip/uncompress it to get the new library files,
> make the new symlinks (by hand or ldconfig) and then exit the hard
> drive version, load the RAMdisk version and copy the new library files
> over the old ones (or move the old ones somewhere for backup first)?

The old files will not be overwritten (the names will be different).
However, some of the symlinks will need to be switched from pointing
to the old library to the new.

> Are there other files that need to be copied somewhere besides the 
> ones in /lib?  

Yes.

> There is some command (which I forgot) to unzip a Slackware
> package in the current directory without installing it.

If you unzip it from the top directory, that will install it.
To avoid this, unzip it somewhere safe (like /tmp).
----------------------
tar -zxvf filename.tgz
----------------------
 
> Is glibc6 2.3 bigger than 2.1 because the files are bigger 
> or because there are more of them, 

Both.

> and if the latter, do we need all of them?

Perhaps.  By trial and error, I was able to eliminate some 
files from the BL2 version of glibc 2.1 (I hope this isn't 
what is causing my Opera problem :-).  I have not done that 
with glibc 2.3 and I have no idea what is needed and what
isn't.

Cheers,
Steven