Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Noam Eitan <bhebrew AT yahoo.com>]

Dear George,

 

I think you are mixing me with someone else, but thanks for your kind words 
anyway.

 

Noam Eitan, Brooklyn, NY [who, for the sake of clarification, worships 
Ashera, the Great Queen of Heaven, as well as our LORD, Ba’al (as well as his 
dear consort Anat - also my sister’s name) and a number of other deities, and 
who wails and mourns at  the end of spring the god Tammuz, the faithful son 
of the fresh waters which come from the earth.]


"George F. Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com> wrote:

Noam,

I understand your agony at seeing what seems to be the destruction of the
texts that you have held sacred. 

 


                
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From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 20:42:31 -0500
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen 1:2
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Dear Harold:

First, I want to commend you for your strong stand for the original reading 
of the text. However, this particular debate is not central to the faith.

While reading Tanakh through time and time again, I first started adding 
notes to the margins of my dictionaries, then expanded them to a full fledged 
dictionary because I noticed the dictionary meanings did not match my 
experiences in learning modern foreign languages nor the definitions I could 
recognize by checking a concordance with every occurrance of a term (update 
on my dictionary: it is still keyed to the Online Bible font (download from 
http://www.onlinebible.com) but I had to change it to a MS Word document. It 
is MS Word 5.1 on the Macintosh, which can be read by MS Word 98 (presumably 
also MS Word 97 on Windows™ or later). It is about a half a Meg in size 
(MacWrite Pro limited documents to half a Meg) which I will send for private, 
noncommercial use upon request. It is still a work in progress.). So it is 
with this term: the reason I asked the question as to its definition is 
because RXP dictionary meaning is forced, at best, and wrong, at worst, when 
it refers to
  flight.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>

> Dear Karl,
> 
> >You need to get out of your mind that it refers 
> >to flight. Then it makes sense in its contexts. 
> >The eagle (and some other mother birds too for 
> >that matter) settles down on its nest on its 
> >chicks when they are small. In the context of a 
> >depressed person (as Jeremiah indicates he was), 
> >his limbs (bones) are settled down and remain 
> >still because the depressed person lacks the 
> >energy to move them. Same action. Then in 
> >Genesis 1:2 we have God‘s Spirit settling down 
> >and resting on the face of the waters. Same 
> >action. As far as I can tell, we don‘t have a 
> >term in English that exactly corrosponds to the 
> >Hebrew RXP, but a workable translation for all 
> >three uses would be ”rest“.
> 
> HH: Dora needs to get it out of her mind that RXP 
> refers to flight unless it does refer to flight. 
> If lexicons and many translations give "hover" 
> for the word, and if in rabbinic Hebrew it 
> apparently had that meaning, I don't see a 
> problem for its biblical contexts. The fact that 
> it mean mean "brood" in a cognate language does 
> not require it has that meaning in Hebrew. By the 
> way, even with "brood," one meaning that 
> Webster's Dictionary gives for "brood" is "hover, 
> loom."
> 
>                               Yours,
>                               Harold Holmyard
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