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  • From: "VC" <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
  • To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew
  • Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 18:54:38 +0300

Dear Harold,

> HH: The fact that the Christian approach requires more assumptions
> does not necessarily make it weaker.
Well, you studied logic, did you? More assumptions - weaker the argument. Or
is the logic inapplicable here? Tertullian's argument about the absurdity
still relied on logic.

>The most simple idea is not
> always correct. It may overlook some important fact.
Taking the NT as a fact is itself an assumption.

>The claim of
> Christianity is that God was giving new revelation through Jesus
> Christ. The claim is that he was a prophet and in fact the Messiah
> prophesied in the OT.
Only a prophet? Wow, you are very liberal. Every Muslim would agree with you
:)

>So the addition you speak of, "axiom B," could
> actually be more truth and so could help one to understand the other
> truth ("axiom A") better.
Yes, if we assume that axiom B is a truth. But, again, this is an
assumption, and makes the argument logically inferior. Substituting logic
with belief remains the only option.

Uh, and one more thing, please: exactly what line of the NT let us
understand the Tanakh better? Just any example, please.


Sincerely,

Vadim Cherny

> > >For me the text is paramount, theology be damned.<
> >This ideal is unrealizable when we have to choose the plausible meanings
out
> >of several grammatically possible.
> >
> >> I have run into Jews who are just as tied to theological assumptions
that
> >restrict their translations as the most unthinking Christian<
> >I was talking of a different thing. Jews assume an axiom A (TNK).
Christians
> >assume axiom A (TNK) + axiom B (NT). Therefore, Christian approach
requires
> >more assumptions, and is weaker; that doesn't mean that Jewish
> >interpretation is perfect.
>
>
> Yours,
> Harold Holmyard
>
> >
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Vadim Cherny
> >>
> >> Karl W. Randolph.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "VC" <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
> >> > Dear Yigal,
> >> >
> >> > > from SOME Orthodox Jewish students and audiences: why should we
care
> >what
> >> > > gentile anti-semites think about OUR Tanakh?
> >> > While I wouldn't go to this extreme, they have a rationale. In any
> >science,
> >> > that explanation is preferred, which requires less assumptions. Now,
> >> > Christian scholars introduce a major assumption in interpreting the
> >Tanakh:
> >> > namely, that it could and even should be interpreted with a fringe
> >sectarian
> >> > text, the NT, in mind. Since Jewish scholars don't require this
> >assumption,
> >> > their opinions should be preferred.
> >> > This, of course, does not imply in any sense pushing someone out of
this
> >> > field of scholarship, but rather inadmissibility of bringing a
doctrine
> >in
> >> > the field.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Vadim Cherny
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