From rosholdt at erols.com Sat May 2 10:08:27 2020 From: rosholdt at erols.com (Rosholdt) Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 10:08:27 -0400 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9b614276-0c5e-695a-19d9-77264dda65fe@erols.com> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > Send nafex mailing list submissions to > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From ehilborn at mebtel.net Sat May 2 13:03:28 2020 From: ehilborn at mebtel.net (Elizabeth Hilborn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 13:03:28 -0400 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: <9b614276-0c5e-695a-19d9-77264dda65fe@erols.com> References: <9b614276-0c5e-695a-19d9-77264dda65fe@erols.com> Message-ID: <6f02638f-df9d-7d9a-70e7-18ac65722e9b@mebtel.net> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate. Elizabeth Hilborn On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote: > I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I > like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. > > Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt > > > On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > >> Send nafex mailing list submissions to >> ????nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> ????https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ????nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ????nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> ??? 1.? If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) >> >> __________________ >> nafex mailing list >> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex -- Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC beewellvet.com From list at ginda.us Tue May 5 10:53:23 2020 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 10:53:23 -0400 Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock Message-ID: <0692B7A4-1DDA-4ECB-9175-6149567D06FF@ginda.us> Well, I had an apricot tree for several years. Didn?t get much fruit, because the squirrels like them green, but it was fun. Then it died of gummosis. I replaced it with another apricot, which has been doing okay. Until yesterday, when I noticed that there?s a LOT of gum in the ground next to its trunk. So? should I buy one of Cummins?s Orchards reduced-price apple rootstocks and graft something I like to it? I?d probably graft Ashmead?s Kernal, because I have some on a tree in a crappy, not-enough-sun part of the yard, and this tree is in one of the best spots. If I do, any recommendations? Looking for something semi-dwarf. It needs to be large enough that eventually a deer won?t eat the whole thing, but my Jonathan on M111 in the front yard would be too large for this spot. Cummins has: B9, G11, G41, G210, G202, G969, G890, and B118 in stock. just thinning that by size, G210, G202, G969 might be suitable. I?m thinking G210 looks too good to be true, so it probably has some problem I?m not aware of. Anyone tried it? Thanks, Ginda Fisher eastern MA, zone 6 From iwgarden at earthlink.net Tue May 5 11:30:05 2020 From: iwgarden at earthlink.net (Idell Weydemeyer) Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:30:05 -0600 Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock In-Reply-To: <0692B7A4-1DDA-4ECB-9175-6149567D06FF@ginda.us> References: <0692B7A4-1DDA-4ECB-9175-6149567D06FF@ginda.us> Message-ID: <012701d622f2$0da3ffd0$28ebff70$@earthlink.net> There was big discussion in the Santa Rosa CA area about how ashmead's kernel apple scions almost always has apple virus so we do not bring it to our scion exchanges-- on a tree by itself it is ok but can infect all the rest of the grafts in a mixed tree. Not sure how it is elsewhere. Idell Weydemeyer Zone 9b -----Original Message----- From: nafex On Behalf Of Ginda Fisher Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 8:53 AM To: NAFEX Fruit Explorers Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock Well, I had an apricot tree for several years. Didn?t get much fruit, because the squirrels like them green, but it was fun. Then it died of gummosis. I replaced it with another apricot, which has been doing okay. Until yesterday, when I noticed that there?s a LOT of gum in the ground next to its trunk. So? should I buy one of Cummins?s Orchards reduced-price apple rootstocks and graft something I like to it? I?d probably graft Ashmead?s Kernal, because I have some on a tree in a crappy, not-enough-sun part of the yard, and this tree is in one of the best spots. If I do, any recommendations? Looking for something semi-dwarf. It needs to be large enough that eventually a deer won?t eat the whole thing, but my Jonathan on M111 in the front yard would be too large for this spot. Cummins has: B9, G11, G41, G210, G202, G969, G890, and B118 in stock. just thinning that by size, G210, G202, G969 might be suitable. I?m thinking G210 looks too good to be true, so it probably has some problem I?m not aware of. Anyone tried it? Thanks, Ginda Fisher eastern MA, zone 6 __________________ nafex mailing list nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From list at ginda.us Tue May 5 11:34:49 2020 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 11:34:49 -0400 Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock In-Reply-To: <012701d622f2$0da3ffd0$28ebff70$@earthlink.net> References: <0692B7A4-1DDA-4ECB-9175-6149567D06FF@ginda.us> <012701d622f2$0da3ffd0$28ebff70$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8602BF27-FDAB-42B7-B629-6AA73B572DFD@ginda.us> That?s interesting. It?s my favorite apple of the ones I?ve eaten grown locally. And I would be cutting the wood from another tree in my yard, and just grafting to the one new rootstock, so not a high-risk endeavor. But that sounds plausible, as I?ve had poor long-term viability of apples I?ve grafted it too, including some native seedling crab apples. Like, the graft takes fine, but a year or 4 later the whole tree dies. Ginda > On May 5, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Idell Weydemeyer wrote: > > There was big discussion in the Santa Rosa CA area about how ashmead's kernel apple scions almost always has apple virus so we do not bring it to our scion exchanges-- on a tree by itself it is ok but can infect all the rest of the grafts in a mixed tree. > > Not sure how it is elsewhere. > > Idell Weydemeyer Zone 9b > > -----Original Message----- > From: nafex On Behalf Of Ginda Fisher > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 8:53 AM > To: NAFEX Fruit Explorers > Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock > > Well, I had an apricot tree for several years. Didn?t get much fruit, because the squirrels like them green, but it was fun. Then it died of gummosis. I replaced it with another apricot, which has been doing okay. Until yesterday, when I noticed that there?s a LOT of gum in the ground next to its trunk. > > So? should I buy one of Cummins?s Orchards reduced-price apple rootstocks and graft something I like to it? I?d probably graft Ashmead?s Kernal, because I have some on a tree in a crappy, not-enough-sun part of the yard, and this tree is in one of the best spots. > > If I do, any recommendations? Looking for something semi-dwarf. It needs to be large enough that eventually a deer won?t eat the whole thing, but my Jonathan on M111 in the front yard would be too large for this spot. > > Cummins has: > B9, G11, G41, G210, G202, G969, G890, and B118 in stock. just thinning that by size, G210, G202, G969 might be suitable. I?m thinking G210 looks too good to be true, so it probably has some problem I?m not aware of. Anyone tried it? > > Thanks, > Ginda Fisher > eastern MA, zone 6 > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From list at ginda.us Fri May 8 13:05:14 2020 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 13:05:14 -0400 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: <6f02638f-df9d-7d9a-70e7-18ac65722e9b@mebtel.net> References: <9b614276-0c5e-695a-19d9-77264dda65fe@erols.com> <6f02638f-df9d-7d9a-70e7-18ac65722e9b@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <4A48FC6E-7FBB-4EE5-AFDF-BC825301D321@ginda.us> Well, despite those comments, I?m going to ask again (more specifically) Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those sound promising. I?m curious about differences in size, growth habit, productivity, and flavor of berries. Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years ago. They were very slow to establish and I?d forgotten about them. (They are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don?t usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year. Ginda Eastern MA, zone 6 > On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: > > I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate. > > Elizabeth Hilborn > > On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote: >> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. >> >> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt >> >> >> On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: >> >>> Send nafex mailing list submissions to >>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) >>> >>> __________________ >>> nafex mailing list >>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> __________________ >> nafex mailing list >> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > > -- > Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM > Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC > beewellvet.com > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From list at ginda.us Fri May 8 13:16:03 2020 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 13:16:03 -0400 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: <4A48FC6E-7FBB-4EE5-AFDF-BC825301D321@ginda.us> References: <9b614276-0c5e-695a-19d9-77264dda65fe@erols.com> <6f02638f-df9d-7d9a-70e7-18ac65722e9b@mebtel.net> <4A48FC6E-7FBB-4EE5-AFDF-BC825301D321@ginda.us> Message-ID: <069AFE4E-076A-4ABD-B7FA-43F241DCC52C@ginda.us> > On May 8, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: > > Well, despite those comments, I?m going to ask again (more specifically) > > Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those sound promising. I?m curious about differences in size, growth habit, productivity, and flavor of berries. > > Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years ago. They were very slow to establish and I?d forgotten about them. (They are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don?t usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year. Lol ? I looked on-line to learn why I might have selected ?little giant? (answer, because it has small fruits, somewhat like a wild blueberry) and discovered that there?s a scam company of that name that advertises and sells that cultivar. I did not do business with a mail-order blueberry company as seen on TV. I ordered from Hartmann's, which isn?t my favorite nursery, but was fine. > > Ginda > Eastern MA, zone 6 > >> On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: >> >> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate. >> >> Elizabeth Hilborn >> >> On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote: >>> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. >>> >>> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt >>> >>> >>> On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: >>> >>>> Send nafex mailing list submissions to >>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) >>>> >>>> __________________ >>>> nafex mailing list >>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>> __________________ >>> nafex mailing list >>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> >> >> -- >> Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM >> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC >> beewellvet.com >> >> __________________ >> nafex mailing list >> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > From filtertitle at gmail.com Sat May 9 15:02:24 2020 From: filtertitle at gmail.com (Steven Covacci) Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 15:02:24 -0400 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: <069AFE4E-076A-4ABD-B7FA-43F241DCC52C@ginda.us> References: <069AFE4E-076A-4ABD-B7FA-43F241DCC52C@ginda.us> Message-ID: <1089D399-A253-4E7C-9CB6-21D4276D48A9@gmail.com> Could anybody recommend a variety of blueberry variety or a huckleberry that can tolerate richer soil which is closer to pH neutral? Thank you, Steve > On May 8, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: > > ? > >> On May 8, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: >> >> Well, despite those comments, I?m going to ask again (more specifically) >> >> Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those sound promising. I?m curious about differences in size, growth habit, productivity, and flavor of berries. >> >> Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years ago. They were very slow to establish and I?d forgotten about them. (They are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don?t usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year. > > Lol ? I looked on-line to learn why I might have selected ?little giant? (answer, because it has small fruits, somewhat like a wild blueberry) and discovered that there?s a scam company of that name that advertises and sells that cultivar. I did not do business with a mail-order blueberry company as seen on TV. I ordered from Hartmann's, which isn?t my favorite nursery, but was fine. > >> >> Ginda >> Eastern MA, zone 6 >> >>>> On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: >>> >>> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate. >>> >>> Elizabeth Hilborn >>> >>> On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote: >>>> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. >>>> >>>> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: >>>> >>>>> Send nafex mailing list submissions to >>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) >>>>> >>>>> __________________ >>>>> nafex mailing list >>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>>> __________________ >>>> nafex mailing list >>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM >>> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC >>> beewellvet.com >>> >>> __________________ >>> nafex mailing list >>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From pogohome at gmail.com Sat May 9 15:59:10 2020 From: pogohome at gmail.com (DB) Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 14:59:10 -0500 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: <1089D399-A253-4E7C-9CB6-21D4276D48A9@gmail.com> References: <069AFE4E-076A-4ABD-B7FA-43F241DCC52C@ginda.us> <1089D399-A253-4E7C-9CB6-21D4276D48A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you are in the northern states look at Honeyberry. On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:03 PM Steven Covacci wrote: > Could anybody recommend a variety of blueberry variety or a huckleberry > that can tolerate richer soil which is closer to pH neutral? > Thank you, Steve > > > On May 8, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: > > > > ? > > > >> On May 8, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: > >> > >> Well, despite those comments, I?m going to ask again (more specifically) > >> > >> Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on > availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those > sound promising. I?m curious about differences in size, growth habit, > productivity, and flavor of berries. > >> > >> Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years > ago. They were very slow to establish and I?d forgotten about them. (They > are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don?t > usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking > mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms > drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but > who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year. > > > > Lol ? I looked on-line to learn why I might have selected ?little giant? > (answer, because it has small fruits, somewhat like a wild blueberry) and > discovered that there?s a scam company of that name that advertises and > sells that cultivar. I did not do business with a mail-order blueberry > company as seen on TV. I ordered from Hartmann's, which isn?t my favorite > nursery, but was fine. > > > >> > >> Ginda > >> Eastern MA, zone 6 > >> > >>>> On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn > wrote: > >>> > >>> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone > 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 > miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it > started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate. > >>> > >>> Elizabeth Hilborn > >>> > >>> On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote: > >>>> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I > like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. > >>>> > >>>> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Send nafex mailing list submissions to > >>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > >>>>> > >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>>>> nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org > >>>>> > >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>>>> nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > >>>>> > >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>>>> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." > >>>>> > >>>>> Today's Topics: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) > >>>>> > >>>>> __________________ > >>>>> nafex mailing list > >>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > >>>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > >>>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > >>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > >>>> __________________ > >>>> nafex mailing list > >>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > >>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > >>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > >>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM > >>> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC > >>> beewellvet.com > >>> > >>> __________________ > >>> nafex mailing list > >>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > >>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > >>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > >>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > >> > > > > __________________ > > nafex mailing list > > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > From list at ginda.us Sat May 9 20:46:08 2020 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 20:46:08 -0400 Subject: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) In-Reply-To: <1089D399-A253-4E7C-9CB6-21D4276D48A9@gmail.com> References: <069AFE4E-076A-4ABD-B7FA-43F241DCC52C@ginda.us> <1089D399-A253-4E7C-9CB6-21D4276D48A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Years ago, there was a long discussion about whether blueberries actually need low pH, or whether they can do okay with a neutral pH if there?s enough organic material. I?ve never tested that myself, though. > On May 9, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Steven Covacci wrote: > > Could anybody recommend a variety of blueberry variety or a huckleberry that can tolerate richer soil which is closer to pH neutral? > Thank you, Steve > >> On May 8, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: >> >> ? >> >>> On May 8, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote: >>> >>> Well, despite those comments, I?m going to ask again (more specifically) >>> >>> Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those sound promising. I?m curious about differences in size, growth habit, productivity, and flavor of berries. >>> >>> Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years ago. They were very slow to establish and I?d forgotten about them. (They are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don?t usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year. >> >> Lol ? I looked on-line to learn why I might have selected ?little giant? (answer, because it has small fruits, somewhat like a wild blueberry) and discovered that there?s a scam company of that name that advertises and sells that cultivar. I did not do business with a mail-order blueberry company as seen on TV. I ordered from Hartmann's, which isn?t my favorite nursery, but was fine. >> >>> >>> Ginda >>> Eastern MA, zone 6 >>> >>>>> On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: >>>> >>>> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate. >>>> >>>> Elizabeth Hilborn >>>> >>>> On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote: >>>>> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont. >>>>> >>>>> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4/30/2020 8:34 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Send nafex mailing list submissions to >>>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>>> >>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>>> nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>>> >>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>>> nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>>> >>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>>> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." >>>>>> >>>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher) >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________ >>>>>> nafex mailing list >>>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>>>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>>>> __________________ >>>>> nafex mailing list >>>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Elizabeth Hilborn, DVM >>>> Bee Well Mobile Veterinary Services, PLLC >>>> beewellvet.com >>>> >>>> __________________ >>>> nafex mailing list >>>> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>>> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>>> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>>> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >>> >> >> __________________ >> nafex mailing list >> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From topgun at otelco.net Fri May 22 22:29:56 2020 From: topgun at otelco.net (Obar) Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 21:29:56 -0500 Subject: [nafex] prafilm M and buddy tape results In-Reply-To: References: <000001d61b63$3862ce40$a9286ac0$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Amen to the use of parafilm -----Original Message----- From: Ginda Fisher Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:58 AM To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters ; Louis Pittman Subject: Re: [nafex] prafilm M and buddy tape results Exactly. Paraffilm is clean and easy to use, I have a lifetime supply, and I see no reason NOT to wrap the whole scion. Much easier to do that than to also fuss with a sealant. I'm sure lots of different grafting methods work. I like paraffilm because it's so easy. It cuts with scissors or a sharp knife, and I apply it with my fingers. Cleanup is just throwing away the little paper backer. -- Ginda typed with Swype, who knows what I intended. On April 26, 2020 8:47:29 AM EDT, Louis Pittman wrote: >Is it 'overkill' to wrap the entire scion with Parafilm, as opposed to >just sealing the apical end? >I don't know, but I have no intention of backing away from wrapping >graft >union and scion, in its entirety, particularly for nut tree grafts. >It's quick to do...I feel better about longterm protection against >scion >dessication, and buds push right through a couple layers of fully >stretched >Parafilm. >Some pecan/hickory and walnut grafts I made on 6 March are just now >beginning to open buds, nearly 2 months later. Would they have dried >out >in the interim if not fully wrapped? > >Again, maybe not at all necessary for apples/pears, and I rarely do >any >stonefruits - but I wouldn't attempt nuts, oaks, persimmons without it. > >It's 'cheap insurance'...I can buy a 2"x250' roll of Parafilm M for >less >than $20...enough to do at least 750-1000 typical pecan or pear grafts >here. >And, it's not at all messy; strips of Parafilm in my grafting kit don't >spill or stick to stuff. > >Lucky Pittman > >On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:27 PM sherwin wrote: > >> On 4/25/2020 7:40 PM, Idell Weydemeyer wrote: >> > >> > >> > Comparison of use or not of Parafilm or buddy tape. >> > >> > In Santa Rosa, rootstocks were grafted for a later plant sale for >the >> > redwood California Rare fruit chapter.--probably over 50- maybe up >to 80 >> > plants. Not sure if the pots were 5 or 10 gallon ones. >> > >> > >> > >> > "In general looking at the prunus grafts from our March 8 event, a >> general >> > observation. >> > >> > >> > >> > The grafts that are looking great and doing quite well, seem to be >all >> the >> > scions where the tips were covered with parafilm or buddy tape. >> > >> > >> > >> > The grafts that didn't take or are quite slow were from scions >where the >> > tips were not covered with parafilm/ buddy tape." >> > >> > >> > >> > Idell Weydemeyer >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________ >> > nafex mailing list >> > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> >> Idell, >> >> Not sure what you mean by the 'tips'. If it is the end opposite >to >> the graft end, I usually paint that end with wood sealer. If there >is >> no sealing of the outer tips, like with a sealant wood filler, the >> moisture will escape out that tip and dry out the scion. Where I >make >> use of tapes like Parafilm is around the graft union where the graft >> itself exposes a large part of the cambium to drying out. I see no >need >> to wrap the entire scion, since the bark around it should prevent >drying >> out along it's length. Wrapping the entire scion may not be as >> effective as just closing off the end with a sealant. >> >> Sherwin >> >> __________________ >> nafex mailing list >> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> >__________________ >nafex mailing list >nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex __________________ nafex mailing list nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com