From sam.brungardt at state.mn.us Mon Nov 2 10:29:06 2015 From: sam.brungardt at state.mn.us (Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:29:06 +0000 Subject: [nafex] How to keep your stone fruit from being "xapped" by bacterial spot (Growing Produce) Message-ID: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057CC0B4@055-CH1MPN1-031.055d.mgd.msft.net> http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/stone-fruit/how-to-keep-your-stone-fruit-from-being-xapped-by-bacterial-spot/ From dvidedevo at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 21:37:54 2015 From: dvidedevo at yahoo.com (Devin Smith) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:37:54 -0800 Subject: [nafex] Miller kiwis Message-ID: <1446604674.85854.YahooMailIosMobile@web160602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dwoodard at becon.org Fri Nov 6 01:22:26 2015 From: dwoodard at becon.org (dwoodard at becon.org) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 01:22:26 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com>, , <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> Message-ID: See and My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time of picking make a difference. One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario From jwlehmantree at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 07:49:20 2015 From: jwlehmantree at gmail.com (Jerry Lehman) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 07:49:20 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> Message-ID: <563CA1D0.9080607@gmail.com> On 11/6/2015 1:22 AM, dwoodard at becon.org wrote: > My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time > of picking make a difference. > One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour > is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though > seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. > > Doug Woodard Doug etl., I'm not an Apple expert but location and time of picking can make a huge difference. Time and temperature in storage and length of storage will change apple taste and texture. And not everyone's preference of texture is the same. I had a variety "Fall Gold" purchased from Stark Brothers Nursery some years back which my son thoroughly liked. It was very crisp, cracked like a small firecracker when you took a bite out of it and juicy with a bland flavor, I did not care for it in the slightest. Mutsu tends to be on the soft side, sweet and very flavorful which is one of my favorites and he didn't care for it at all because it isn't real crisp. Primary for my son is texture, for myself is taste. Texture and taste are subjective. Jerry From alandhaigh at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 08:12:17 2015 From: alandhaigh at gmail.com (Alan Haigh) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 08:12:17 -0500 Subject: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 160, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For the general consumer, Honeycrisp offers a great deal compared to the apples next to it in most grocery stores. For the experienced apple enthusiast with knowledge of hundreds of varieties it usually is not such an impressive apple. We apple lovers with a wide range varietal knowledge are an extreme but growing minority. Honeycrisp at least draws interest to the field. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 7:49 AM, wrote: > Send nafex mailing list submissions to > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media (dwoodard at becon.org) > 2. Re: [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media (Jerry Lehman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 01:22:26 -0500 > From: > To: > Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > See > < > http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-s-beloved-honeycrisp-comes-under-fire/340356951/ > > > > and > < > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/dining/beyond-the-honeycrisp-apple.html> > > My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time > of picking make a difference. > One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour > is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though > seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. > > Doug Woodard > St. Catharines, Ontario > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 07:49:20 -0500 > From: Jerry Lehman > To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > Message-ID: <563CA1D0.9080607 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 11/6/2015 1:22 AM, dwoodard at becon.org wrote: > > My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time > > of picking make a difference. > > One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour > > is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though > > seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. > > > > Doug Woodard > Doug etl., > > I'm not an Apple expert but location and time of picking can make a huge > difference. Time and temperature in storage and length of storage will > change apple taste and texture. > > And not everyone's preference of texture is the same. I had a variety > "Fall Gold" purchased from Stark Brothers Nursery some years back which > my son thoroughly liked. It was very crisp, cracked like a small > firecracker when you took a bite out of it and juicy with a bland > flavor, I did not care for it in the slightest. Mutsu tends to be on the > soft side, sweet and very flavorful which is one of my favorites and he > didn't care for it at all because it isn't real crisp. Primary for my > son is texture, for myself is taste. Texture and taste are subjective. > > Jerry > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > ------------------------------ > > End of nafex Digest, Vol 160, Issue 4 > ************************************* > From list at ginda.us Fri Nov 6 10:53:45 2015 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:53:45 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com>, , <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> Message-ID: I, also, prefer the texture of Macoun to Honeycrisp. But Macoun can only be grown well in a small region, and doesn't keep well. Honeycrisp, despite the complaints, is much more widely adapted and can be stored for months. -- Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? On November 6, 2015 1:22:26 AM EST, dwoodard at becon.org wrote: > See > > > and > > >My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time > of picking make a difference. > One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour >is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though > seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. > > Doug Woodard > St. Catharines, Ontario > > >__________________ >nafex mailing list >nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From chandos49 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 6 12:12:06 2015 From: chandos49 at hotmail.com (david liezen) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:12:06 +0000 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com>, <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com>, <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com>, , , , <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu>, <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu>, , Message-ID: I had a first encounter with Macoun two years back. The vanilla note was unexpected and lingered in the finish. Great apple! The season for it is rather brief, but so worth finding. I'd like to get my teeth into Keepsake - the mother of Honeycrisp by DNA analysis - for I read it has much more flavor with similar breaking texture, and keeps all winter in cellar. Dave Liezen ---------------------------------------- > From: list at ginda.us > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:53:45 -0500 > To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org; dwoodard at becon.org > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > > I, also, prefer the texture of Macoun to Honeycrisp. But Macoun can only be grown well in a small region, and doesn't keep well. Honeycrisp, despite the complaints, is much more widely adapted and can be stored for months. > -- > Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? > > On November 6, 2015 1:22:26 AM EST, dwoodard at becon.org wrote: >> See >> >> >> and >> >> >>My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time >> of picking make a difference. >> One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour >>is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though >> seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. >> >> Doug Woodard >> St. Catharines, Ontario >> >> >>__________________ >>nafex mailing list >>nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >>subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From naomi at oznayim.us Fri Nov 6 12:24:50 2015 From: naomi at oznayim.us (Naomi Counides) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:24:50 -0700 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com>, <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com>, <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com>, , , , <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu>, <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu>, , Message-ID: <00c001d118b8$0dcc31b0$29649510$@oznayim.us> I have enjoyed my Keepsake for many years. Really nice hard crunch and plenty of flavor. Don't know about keeping, since I ate it too fast. Naomi -----Original Message----- From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of david liezen Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 10:12 AM To: North American Fruit Explorers Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media I had a first encounter with Macoun two years back. The vanilla note was unexpected and lingered in the finish. Great apple! The season for it is rather brief, but so worth finding. I'd like to get my teeth into Keepsake - the mother of Honeycrisp by DNA analysis - for I read it has much more flavor with similar breaking texture, and keeps all winter in cellar. Dave Liezen ---------------------------------------- > From: list at ginda.us > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:53:45 -0500 > To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org; dwoodard at becon.org > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > > I, also, prefer the texture of Macoun to Honeycrisp. But Macoun can only be grown well in a small region, and doesn't keep well. Honeycrisp, despite the complaints, is much more widely adapted and can be stored for months. > -- > Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? > > On November 6, 2015 1:22:26 AM EST, dwoodard at becon.org wrote: >> See >>>-fire/340356951/> >> >> and >>>html> >> >>My impression as an eater is that the location of growing and the time >>of picking make a difference. >> One batch had a very nice slightly spicy flavour; usually the flavour >>is pleasant but the texture is the main attraction. The texture though >>seems to me slightly inferior to Macoun. >> >> Doug Woodard >> St. Catharines, Ontario >> >> >>__________________ >>nafex mailing list >>nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >>Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user >>config|list info: >>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user > config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex __________________ nafex mailing list nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From jbarbowski at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 14:23:42 2015 From: jbarbowski at gmail.com (John Barbowski) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:23:42 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: <00c001d118b8$0dcc31b0$29649510$@oznayim.us> References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> <00c001d118b8$0dcc31b0$29649510$@oznayim.us> Message-ID: *I agree with the Keepsake plaudits. Had 3 apples 2 years ago and couldn't really make a statement. Last year, my 30 plus apples were stolen - in late October as I had left the apples on the tree too long. This year, I picked and tasted my 40 apple crop in early October; it quickly became my favorite sweet apple. Firm, jucy and quite pest resistant - but then I bag my apples.I grafted Macoun 4-5 years ago because it was, at that time, my favorite for sweetness. It has yet to bear so I am unable to compare it to others in my specific environment; likewise with honeycrisp. Cox's Orange Pippen is right up there.* *john b* On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Naomi Counides wrote: > I have enjoyed my Keepsake for many years. Really nice hard crunch and > plenty of flavor. Don't know about keeping, since I ate it too fast. > Naomi > > -----Original Message----- > From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of david > liezen > Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 10:12 AM > To: North American Fruit Explorers > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > > I had a first encounter with Macoun two years back. The vanilla note was > unexpected and lingered in the finish. Great apple! The season for it is > rather brief, but so worth finding. > I'd like to get my teeth into Keepsake - the mother of Honeycrisp by DNA > analysis - for I read it has much more flavor with similar breaking > texture, > and keeps all winter in cellar. > > Dave Liezen > From naomi at oznayim.us Fri Nov 6 16:40:29 2015 From: naomi at oznayim.us (Naomi Counides) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:40:29 -0700 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> <00c001d118b8$0dcc31b0$29649510$@oznayim.us> Message-ID: <014401d118db$c5e48f90$51adaeb0$@oznayim.us> Oh.... Cox Orange Pippen. I had a tree once. It had one good year in 7 so I pulled it out. But the apples were Amazing. Seemingly it does not like hot weather. We go into the 100s every year. But Keepsake has no trouble with that. I would call Keepsake grower friendly, maybe even outright affectionate. Naomi -----Original Message----- From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John Barbowski Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:24 PM To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media *I agree with the Keepsake plaudits. Had 3 apples 2 years ago and couldn't really make a statement. Last year, my 30 plus apples were stolen - in late October as I had left the apples on the tree too long. This year, I picked and tasted my 40 apple crop in early October; it quickly became my favorite sweet apple. Firm, jucy and quite pest resistant - but then I bag my apples.I grafted Macoun 4-5 years ago because it was, at that time, my favorite for sweetness. It has yet to bear so I am unable to compare it to others in my specific environment; likewise with honeycrisp. Cox's Orange Pippen is right up there.* *john b* On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Naomi Counides wrote: > I have enjoyed my Keepsake for many years. Really nice hard crunch > and plenty of flavor. Don't know about keeping, since I ate it too fast. > Naomi > > -----Original Message----- > From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of > david liezen > Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 10:12 AM > To: North American Fruit Explorers > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > > I had a first encounter with Macoun two years back. The vanilla note > was unexpected and lingered in the finish. Great apple! The season for > it is rather brief, but so worth finding. > I'd like to get my teeth into Keepsake - the mother of Honeycrisp by > DNA analysis - for I read it has much more flavor with similar > breaking texture, and keeps all winter in cellar. > > Dave Liezen > __________________ nafex mailing list nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From mijwiz at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 08:16:42 2015 From: mijwiz at yahoo.com (Melissa Kacalanos) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:16:42 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: <014401d118db$c5e48f90$51adaeb0$@oznayim.us> References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> <00c001d118b8$0dcc31b0$29649510$@oznayim.us> <014401d118db$c5e48f90$51adaeb0$@oznayim.us> Message-ID: We signed up for an organic fruit CSA in zone 5, NY, and of the many apple varieties, only Keepsake and Goldrush weren't riddled with wormholes. Keepsake was wonderfully sweet and crisp, with an intense tropical aroma. It's inexplicable to me that it's not more popular. I prefer it to Honeycrisp. Melissa From mijwiz at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 08:21:14 2015 From: mijwiz at yahoo.com (Melissa Kacalanos) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:21:14 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media In-Reply-To: <014401d118db$c5e48f90$51adaeb0$@oznayim.us> References: <35b302ce-bbfe-44bc-aa36-788311dafdb0@googlegroups.com> <6263b9e7-b7fa-4b53-b04b-b5550b6aca93@googlegroups.com> <50855d21-fba2-47d5-8da6-c99ef44e09d0@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A57359A64CB7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <03ED85CB-7417-4249-90EA-B8E1CCF74FDB@umkc.edu> <00c001d118b8$0dcc31b0$29649510$@oznayim.us> <014401d118db$c5e48f90$51adaeb0$@oznayim.us> Message-ID: <3FA00672-FEF8-48A9-A40F-5112AB847448@yahoo.com> A comment below one of those articles mentions this nursery, which has a lot of interesting varieties: http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/fruit2008/sweetmeat-crab-hybrids2008.htm I want to try one of these supposedly extremely aromatic Muscat de Venus apples. Melissa From pxbacher at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 04:00:06 2015 From: pxbacher at gmail.com (Peter Chrisbacher) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 04:00:06 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Black Knot Ornamental Plum Replacement Message-ID: Greetings All - The once beautiful purple ornamental Plum beside our church is sadly riddled with black knot. I'd like to replace it with an ornamental of similar size and color. Recommendations? Whatever goes into that spot can't be black knot susceptible. I was hoping to find a red Plum that would fit the bill, but none that I've found are fully resistant. Thanks! -Pete Wilmington DE (6B) From pxbacher at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 14:41:39 2015 From: pxbacher at gmail.com (Peter Chrisbacher) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 14:41:39 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Late Rooted Fig Cuttings Message-ID: Greetings All - Late this summer I stumbled across a couple of new-to-me fig trees from which I was able to take cuttings. Most are now rooted in 50/50 perlite/vermiculite. I'm wondering what the best way to get them through winter is. I've brought them inside and have them sitting beside a sunny south-facing window at the moment. Most still have their "nursery" leaf still attached (on one cutting the leaf has fallen off, but it appears fairly well-rooted). I'm inclined to leave them as is with leaves, keep them moist, and see what happens over winter. Thoughts? Pete Chrisbacher Wilmington DE (6b) From chandos49 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 8 16:51:32 2015 From: chandos49 at hotmail.com (david liezen) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 21:51:32 +0000 Subject: [nafex] Black Knot Ornamental Plum Replacement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IF you are open to an apple substitute, one of the red-fleshed can be quite ornamental and smaller: For instance, Winekist and Redfield both have lovely blossom and bloom among the earliest of apples - near the time of plums. Winekist is a natural semi-dwarf in its own right and Redfield on M26, Gen30, 41 or 935 would be modest in size. Both are not too hard to find in your area. Someone else must recommend a resistant plum, which is beyond my experience, Dave Liezen ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 04:00:06 -0500 > From: pxbacher at gmail.com > To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [nafex] Black Knot Ornamental Plum Replacement > > Greetings All - > > The once beautiful purple ornamental Plum beside our church is sadly > riddled with black knot. I'd like to replace it with an ornamental of > similar size and color. Recommendations? Whatever goes into that spot can't > be black knot susceptible. I was hoping to find a red Plum that would fit > the bill, but none that I've found are fully resistant. > > Thanks! > > -Pete > Wilmington DE (6B) > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From alandhaigh at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 17:24:02 2015 From: alandhaigh at gmail.com (Alan Haigh) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 17:24:02 -0500 Subject: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 160, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Replacement for plum could be so many things, but I would refer to Dirr's book and choose a disease resistant crab apple. On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 2:41 PM, wrote: > Send nafex mailing list submissions to > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Black Knot Ornamental Plum Replacement (Peter Chrisbacher) > 2. Late Rooted Fig Cuttings (Peter Chrisbacher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 04:00:06 -0500 > From: Peter Chrisbacher > To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio > Subject: [nafex] Black Knot Ornamental Plum Replacement > Message-ID: > BQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Greetings All - > > The once beautiful purple ornamental Plum beside our church is sadly > riddled with black knot. I'd like to replace it with an ornamental of > similar size and color. Recommendations? Whatever goes into that spot can't > be black knot susceptible. I was hoping to find a red Plum that would fit > the bill, but none that I've found are fully resistant. > > Thanks! > > -Pete > Wilmington DE (6B) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 14:41:39 -0500 > From: Peter Chrisbacher > To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio > Subject: [nafex] Late Rooted Fig Cuttings > Message-ID: > < > CAPmZpfNyEaqHAhZV_Zu1DNPrML70PBUuHtMSvDBtLHtWgw54mg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Greetings All - > > Late this summer I stumbled across a couple of new-to-me fig trees from > which I was able to take cuttings. Most are now rooted in 50/50 > perlite/vermiculite. I'm wondering what the best way to get them through > winter is. I've brought them inside and have them sitting beside a sunny > south-facing window at the moment. Most still have their "nursery" leaf > still attached (on one cutting the leaf has fallen off, but it appears > fairly well-rooted). > > I'm inclined to leave them as is with leaves, keep them moist, and see what > happens over winter. > > Thoughts? > > Pete Chrisbacher > Wilmington DE (6b) > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > ------------------------------ > > End of nafex Digest, Vol 160, Issue 10 > ************************************** > From ehilborn at mebtel.net Sun Nov 8 19:33:45 2015 From: ehilborn at mebtel.net (Elizabeth Hilborn) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:33:45 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Late Rooted Fig Cuttings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <563FE9E9.5070703@mebtel.net> My only experience is one cutting taken late in the year that pushed out roots in late summer, I too overwintered it indoors with some light from a south facing window. I did pot it up into soil for the winter and it made some new leaves overwinter. I planted it the next spring and although it has survived 5 years it has never thrived. I suspect the site though as it is in part shade. All my other cuttings were started in winter and I planted them the following season. Figs definitely respond positively to warm temperatures with vigorous growth. I have had back luck in general with late plantings of mail ordered young figs that have poor root systems. They appear to be very sensitive to winter injury. Betsy Hilborn 7a NC On 11/8/2015 2:41 PM, Peter Chrisbacher wrote: > Greetings All - > > Late this summer I stumbled across a couple of new-to-me fig trees from > which I was able to take cuttings. Most are now rooted in 50/50 > perlite/vermiculite. I'm wondering what the best way to get them through > winter is. I've brought them inside and have them sitting beside a sunny > south-facing window at the moment. Most still have their "nursery" leaf > still attached (on one cutting the leaf has fallen off, but it appears > fairly well-rooted). > > I'm inclined to leave them as is with leaves, keep them moist, and see what > happens over winter. > > Thoughts? > > Pete Chrisbacher > Wilmington DE (6b) > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > From ramoyer at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 19:49:42 2015 From: ramoyer at gmail.com (Richard Moyer) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:49:42 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Ornamental plum with black knot resistance Message-ID: Pete, I'd check with Michael McConkey at Edible Landscaping. He's in the midAtlantic, and has offered purple-leaf plums in the past. Richard Moyer SW VA From qazingulaza at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 23:57:01 2015 From: qazingulaza at gmail.com (mIEKAL aND) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 22:57:01 -0600 Subject: [nafex] Late Rooted Fig Cuttings In-Reply-To: <563FE9E9.5070703@mebtel.net> References: <563FE9E9.5070703@mebtel.net> Message-ID: I have dozens of figs that really only have been rooted for a couple months, they aren't developed enough to go dormant and be stored in the basement will all the older container figs, so I grow them out in a sunny window, I might even feed them once or twice in early spring... when I put them outside next spring, I will cut back most of the winter's growth except for some structure, some growing them thru that first winter is more for the sake of growing out the roots than for top growth... ~mIEKAL On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: > My only experience is one cutting taken late in the year that pushed out > roots in late summer, I too overwintered it indoors with some light from a > south facing window. I did pot it up into soil for the winter and it made > some new leaves overwinter. I planted it the next spring and although it has > survived 5 years it has never thrived. I suspect the site though as it is in > part shade. All my other cuttings were started in winter and I planted them > the following season. Figs definitely respond positively to warm > temperatures with vigorous growth. > > I have had back luck in general with late plantings of mail ordered young > figs that have poor root systems. They appear to be very sensitive to winter > injury. > > Betsy Hilborn > 7a NC > > > On 11/8/2015 2:41 PM, Peter Chrisbacher wrote: >> >> Greetings All - >> >> Late this summer I stumbled across a couple of new-to-me fig trees from >> which I was able to take cuttings. Most are now rooted in 50/50 >> perlite/vermiculite. I'm wondering what the best way to get them through >> winter is. I've brought them inside and have them sitting beside a sunny >> south-facing window at the moment. Most still have their "nursery" leaf >> still attached (on one cutting the leaf has fallen off, but it appears >> fairly well-rooted). >> >> I'm inclined to leave them as is with leaves, keep them moist, and see >> what >> happens over winter. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Pete Chrisbacher >> Wilmington DE (6b) >> __________________ >> nafex mailing list >> nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >> > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From nathan.b.c.wilson at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 08:03:33 2015 From: nathan.b.c.wilson at gmail.com (Nathan Wilson) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:03:33 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Accelerate Fruiting - morus nigra Message-ID: I'm planting morus nigra in 87 litre (23 U.S. gal) pots and overwintering in a cool basement (zone 6b). I hear that morus nigra can take 10+ years to bear. Any tips on getting it to bear earlier? High phosphorous and potassium fertilizer? Bone meal? From leeareich at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 08:13:39 2015 From: leeareich at gmail.com (Lee Reich) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:13:39 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Accelerate Fruiting - morus nigra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EF3B750-755B-4644-A44B-4B3AED686E7A@leereich.com> Plants need to grow beyond their juvenility phase before they can bear flowers and fruit. The way to do this is to maximize growth. Experiments with apple seedling showed that prolonging growth with a greenhouse (and maybe artificial lighting for longer days), in addition to good growing conditions, hastened the transition to maturity. (This was from a research report by Dr. Richard Zimmerman in, I think, HortScience). Lee Reich, PhD Come visit my farmden at http://www.leereich.com/blog http://leereich.com/ Books by Lee Reich: A Northeast Gardener's Year The Pruning Book Weedless Gardening Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden Landscaping with Fruit Grow Fruit Naturally > On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Nathan Wilson wrote: > > I'm planting morus nigra in 87 litre (23 U.S. gal) pots and overwintering > in a cool basement (zone 6b). I hear that morus nigra can take 10+ years to > bear. Any tips on getting it to bear earlier? High phosphorous and > potassium fertilizer? Bone meal? > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From loneroc1 at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 10:18:51 2015 From: loneroc1 at gmail.com (Steve Herje) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:18:51 -0600 Subject: [nafex] Accelerate Fruiting - morus nigra In-Reply-To: <7EF3B750-755B-4644-A44B-4B3AED686E7A@leereich.com> References: <7EF3B750-755B-4644-A44B-4B3AED686E7A@leereich.com> Message-ID: You might also want to search for 'trunk girdling' or 'stem constriction'. When I used to grow out tons of magnolia seedlings, in the third year I'd bind the trunk with insulated wire for a year or two. The stem would continue to expand and the resulting constriction interfered with sap flow. It seemed to significantly shorten the time for slow maturing crosses to flower. I did not have a control group of seedlings so... Steve H. Lone Rock WI USDA zone 3 From r.fred.bruns at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 11:25:01 2015 From: r.fred.bruns at gmail.com (Robert Bruns) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:01 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Accelerate Fruiting - morus nigra In-Reply-To: References: <7EF3B750-755B-4644-A44B-4B3AED686E7A@leereich.com> Message-ID: I've been growing a Morus nigra in an 18" pot for the last 3 years, and it's still only 2 feet tall. I move it into a partially heated greenhouse every winter. For what it's worth, I've noticed that it gets some sort of leaf disease that I don't see on Morus alba. Fred Carmel, IN (zone 5B) On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Steve Herje wrote: > You might also want to search for 'trunk girdling' or 'stem constriction'. > When I used to grow out tons of magnolia seedlings, in the third year I'd > bind the trunk with insulated wire for a year or two. The stem would > continue to expand and the resulting constriction interfered with sap flow. > It seemed to significantly shorten the time for slow maturing crosses to > flower. I did not have a control group of seedlings so... > > Steve H. Lone Rock WI USDA zone 3 > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > From jimfruth at charter.net Wed Nov 11 21:45:39 2015 From: jimfruth at charter.net (Jim Fruth) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:45:39 -0600 Subject: [nafex] Accelerate Fruiting - morus nigra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84A497B97CE8419B84DCEA4D22E8193A@OwnerPC> I had Morus nigra which I just planted in the ground (zone 3) and it produced fruit the year after transplant. It was buried in snow over the Winter. I got only two years of production, with scant growth and, not unexpectedly, it didn't survive a Winter with scant snow. -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Wilson Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:03 AM To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [nafex] Accelerate Fruiting - morus nigra I'm planting morus nigra in 87 litre (23 U.S. gal) pots and overwintering in a cool basement (zone 6b). I hear that morus nigra can take 10+ years to bear. Any tips on getting it to bear earlier? High phosphorous and potassium fertilizer? Bone meal? __________________ nafex mailing list nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From antonptak at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 22:15:03 2015 From: antonptak at gmail.com (anton ptak) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:15:03 -0600 Subject: [nafex] keepsake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56440437.3020709@gmail.com> I'll throw in another vote for keepsake, in the upper midwest. though ours are not exactly the best looking apples we grow, they are one of the tastiest. seems that popularity is lower just for the simple fact that they are later season, at least in this neck of the woods. We'll sell them here at out first winter farmers market and they always do well (after sampling, of course). we picked ours about a month ago and now they are really quite amazing. In the past when I used to buy apples, I'd keep keepsake in the root cellar for 3-4 months and they'd start to get shrivelly skins but the texture would remain crisp. I'm not sure quite how long they would last under controlled conditions. Anton Ptak W. Wisconsin On 11/7/15 7:21 AM, nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > Send nafex mailing list submissions to > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nafex-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nafex-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > (Melissa Kacalanos) > 2. Re: [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > (Melissa Kacalanos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:16:42 -0500 > From: Melissa Kacalanos > To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > We signed up for an organic fruit CSA in zone 5, NY, and of the many apple varieties, only Keepsake and Goldrush weren't riddled with wormholes. Keepsake was wonderfully sweet and crisp, with an intense tropical aroma. It's inexplicable to me that it's not more popular. I prefer it to Honeycrisp. > > Melissa > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:21:14 -0500 > From: Melissa Kacalanos > To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > > Subject: Re: [nafex] [ARTICLES] Honeycrisp discussions in media > Message-ID: <3FA00672-FEF8-48A9-A40F-5112AB847448 at yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > A comment below one of those articles mentions this nursery, which has a lot of interesting varieties: > http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/fruit2008/sweetmeat-crab-hybrids2008.htm > > I want to try one of these supposedly extremely aromatic Muscat de Venus apples. > > Melissa > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > ------------------------------ > > End of nafex Digest, Vol 160, Issue 9 > ************************************* From wynne at crcwnet.com Wed Nov 11 23:06:30 2015 From: wynne at crcwnet.com (Wynne Weinreb) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 23:06:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [nafex] vol 161, digest 3 keepsake and goldrush Message-ID: <1419745116.245065048.1447301190200.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> biggest drawback to the luscious goldrush apple is keeping--after a few months, unless we pack well in alot of paper, the apples will shrivel and look like a quilted soft unattractive piece of fruit keepsake rocks, lovely taste does not last long enough at our markets to see how it long stores, dont have enough and they get bought up fast From wynne at crcwnet.com Wed Nov 11 23:07:48 2015 From: wynne at crcwnet.com (Wynne Weinreb) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 23:07:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [nafex] vol 161, issue 3 keepsake and goldrush In-Reply-To: <1419745116.245065048.1447301190200.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> References: <1419745116.245065048.1447301190200.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> Message-ID: <1833256409.245094406.1447301268442.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> from wynne weinreb jerzy boyz farm chelan wa From: "Webmail wynne" To: "North American Fruit Explorers" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:06:30 PM Subject: vol 161, digest 3 keepsake and goldrush biggest drawback to the luscious goldrush apple is keeping--after a few months, unless we pack well in alot of paper, the apples will shrivel and look like a quilted soft unattractive piece of fruit keepsake rocks, lovely taste does not last long enough at our markets to see how it long stores, dont have enough and they get bought up fast From davidndeannie at nctc.com Thu Nov 12 10:09:59 2015 From: davidndeannie at nctc.com (Deannie Hughes) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:09:59 -0600 Subject: [nafex] vol 161, issue 3 keepsake and goldrush In-Reply-To: <1833256409.245094406.1447301268442.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> References: <1419745116.245065048.1447301190200.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> <1833256409.245094406.1447301268442.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> Message-ID: I packed some in plastic box liners last year and they were in good to fair shape when I ate the last of them in July this year. Slight shriveling and a subdued flavor at the end but still an attractive apple. Stored in a cooler at 33 degrees. Mine come from Lynds in Pataskala OH. They are just getting ripe enough to pick up there now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wynne Weinreb" To: "North American Fruit Explorers" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [nafex] vol 161, issue 3 keepsake and goldrush > from wynne weinreb jerzy boyz farm chelan wa > > > From: "Webmail wynne" > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:06:30 PM > Subject: vol 161, digest 3 keepsake and goldrush > > biggest drawback to the luscious goldrush apple is keeping--after a few > months, unless we pack well in alot of paper, the apples will shrivel and > look like a quilted soft > unattractive piece of fruit keepsake rocks, lovely taste does not last > long enough at our markets to see how it long stores, dont have enough and > they get bought up fast > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jwlehmantree at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 10:20:21 2015 From: jwlehmantree at gmail.com (Jerry Lehman) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:20:21 -0500 Subject: [nafex] vol 161, issue 3 keepsake and goldrush In-Reply-To: References: <1419745116.245065048.1447301190200.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> <1833256409.245094406.1447301268442.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> Message-ID: <5644AE35.1090907@gmail.com> On 11/12/2015 10:09 AM, Deannie Hughes wrote: > I packed some in plastic box liners last year and they were in good to > fair shape when I ate the last of them in July this year. Slight > shriveling and a subdued flavor at the end but still an attractive > apple. Stored in a cooler at 33 degrees. Mine come from Lynds in > Pataskala OH. They are just getting ripe enough to pick up there now. Were you referring to keepsake or gold rush? From sam.brungardt at state.mn.us Thu Nov 12 12:30:01 2015 From: sam.brungardt at state.mn.us (Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:30:01 +0000 Subject: [nafex] Quince: Grow and taste the 'forbidden fruit' (Hutchinson, Kan., News) Message-ID: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057CDE1D@055-CH1MPN1-031.055d.mgd.msft.net> Quince: Grow and taste the 'forbidden fruit' (http://www.hutchnews.com/lifestyle/quince-grow-and-taste-the-forbidden-fruit/article_d45d4757-e5ac-5f26-bb55-b40b33417b1a.html ) Hutchinson News Some quince varieties - Aromatnaya and Karp's Sweet - are said to be edible without cooking, but heat is what really unlocks the best this fruit has to ... [Google Plus] [Facebook] [Twitter] Flag as irrelevant -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 732 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From davidndeannie at nctc.com Thu Nov 12 20:36:50 2015 From: davidndeannie at nctc.com (Deannie Hughes) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:36:50 -0600 Subject: [nafex] vol 161, issue 3 keepsake and goldrush In-Reply-To: <5644AE35.1090907@gmail.com> References: <1419745116.245065048.1447301190200.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com><1833256409.245094406.1447301268442.JavaMail.zimbra@crcwnet.com> <5644AE35.1090907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Gold Rush ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Lehman" To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [nafex] vol 161, issue 3 keepsake and goldrush > On 11/12/2015 10:09 AM, Deannie Hughes wrote: >> I packed some in plastic box liners last year and they were in good to >> fair shape when I ate the last of them in July this year. Slight >> shriveling and a subdued flavor at the end but still an attractive apple. >> Stored in a cooler at 33 degrees. Mine come from Lynds in Pataskala OH. >> They are just getting ripe enough to pick up there now. > Were you referring to keepsake or gold rush? > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From sam.brungardt at state.mn.us Fri Nov 20 12:49:13 2015 From: sam.brungardt at state.mn.us (Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:49:13 +0000 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing Message-ID: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing (http://www.freshplaza.com/article/149372/Siberia-Farmers-experimenting-with-exotic-fruit-growing ) From lfljvenaura at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 22:14:18 2015 From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:14:18 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing In-Reply-To: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> References: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Brungardt, Sam (MPCA) < sam.brungardt at state.mn.us> wrote: > Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing< > http://www.freshplaza.com/article/149372/Siberia-Farmers-experimenting-with-exotic-fruit-growing> > ( > http://www.freshplaza.com/article/149372/Siberia-Farmers-experimenting-with-exotic-fruit-growing > ) > Citrus growing in greenhouses in Bashkortostan (original post by Jerry Lehman) Lemonary In Bashkortostanhttps://sites.google.com/site/seedkeeping/international-resources/lemonary-in-bashkortostan (upload of Jerry Lehman's .pdf file attached to nafex post) Lemonary in Bashkortostan.pdfhttps://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxzZWVka2VlcGluZ3xneDo3MDYwNmY2NGM4MzZmMWUy The Lemonarium Website (many pages with excellent photographs):http://lemonarium.ru/index.html (in Russian) Also about the lemonary:http://www.greencom.ru/en/firm_info.html/fID/442 Experimental Instructional Farm of the Ufimsk Forest Husbandry Technical School Wholesale, Manufacture Russia, Bashkortostan Resp, Ufimskiy r-n, Ufa g, Mingazheva Str., 126, office: Mendeleeva Str. 152 / 2 +7 3472 52-2000 +7 3472 28-8030 The Farm demonstrates produce of the ornamental plant nursery ?Ufimsk Lemonary? for growing citrus and exotic crops (varying-age seedlings of lemon, pomegranate, laurel, fig tree, etc.) and specimens of lemon fruit of different varieties and forms. The farm has been growing citrus crops on an area of 1 ha in protected ground for over 15 year. -- Lawrence F. London lfljvenaura at gmail.com https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/ From lfljvenaura at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 22:20:09 2015 From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:20:09 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing In-Reply-To: References: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Lawrence London wrote: > The Lemonarium Website (many pages with excellent photographs):http://lemonarium.ru/index.html > (in Russian) > > I sure am glad I downloaded that entire site when it was up. It is offline now. The images there can be seen here now: https://sites.google.com/site/seedkeeping/international-resources/lemonary-in-bashkortostan -- Lawrence F. London lfljvenaura at gmail.com https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/ From qazingulaza at gmail.com Sat Nov 21 10:27:27 2015 From: qazingulaza at gmail.com (mIEKAL aND) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 09:27:27 -0600 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing In-Reply-To: References: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Message-ID: thanks for this Lawrence, I tried to track down more info yesterday and couldn't pull anything up.. On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Lawrence London wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Brungardt, Sam (MPCA) < > sam.brungardt at state.mn.us> wrote: > >> Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing< >> http://www.freshplaza.com/article/149372/Siberia-Farmers-experimenting-with-exotic-fruit-growing> >> ( >> http://www.freshplaza.com/article/149372/Siberia-Farmers-experimenting-with-exotic-fruit-growing >> ) >> > > Citrus growing in greenhouses in Bashkortostan (original post by Jerry > Lehman) > > Lemonary In Bashkortostanhttps://sites.google.com/site/seedkeeping/international-resources/lemonary-in-bashkortostan > > (upload of Jerry Lehman's .pdf file attached to nafex post) > Lemonary in Bashkortostan.pdfhttps://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxzZWVka2VlcGluZ3xneDo3MDYwNmY2NGM4MzZmMWUy > > The Lemonarium Website (many pages with excellent > photographs):http://lemonarium.ru/index.html > (in Russian) > > Also about the lemonary:http://www.greencom.ru/en/firm_info.html/fID/442 > Experimental Instructional Farm of the Ufimsk Forest Husbandry Technical > School > Wholesale, Manufacture > Russia, Bashkortostan Resp, Ufimskiy r-n, Ufa g, Mingazheva Str., 126, > office: Mendeleeva Str. 152 / 2 > +7 3472 52-2000 > +7 3472 28-8030 > The Farm demonstrates produce of the ornamental plant nursery ?Ufimsk > Lemonary? for growing citrus and exotic crops (varying-age seedlings of > lemon, pomegranate, laurel, fig tree, etc.) and specimens of lemon fruit > of different varieties and forms. The farm has been growing citrus crops > on an area of 1 ha in protected ground for over 15 year. > > > > > -- > Lawrence F. London > lfljvenaura at gmail.com > https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/ > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From lfljvenaura at gmail.com Sat Nov 21 21:00:24 2015 From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:00:24 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing In-Reply-To: References: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:27 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote: > thanks for this Lawrence, I tried to track down more info yesterday > and couldn't pull anything up.. > I was wondering if the facility is for research, commercial nursery and/or production for market sales. Any idea? -- Lawrence F. London lfljvenaura at gmail.com https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/ From qazingulaza at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 22:13:04 2015 From: qazingulaza at gmail.com (mIEKAL aND) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:13:04 -0600 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing In-Reply-To: References: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Message-ID: no, this is the first I've heard of this On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Lawrence London wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:27 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote: > >> thanks for this Lawrence, I tried to track down more info yesterday >> and couldn't pull anything up.. >> > > I was wondering if the facility is for research, commercial nursery and/or > production for market sales. Any idea? > > -- > Lawrence F. London > lfljvenaura at gmail.com > https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/ > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex From lfljvenaura at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 01:39:46 2015 From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 01:39:46 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Siberian farmers experimenting with exotic fruit growing In-Reply-To: References: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E4057E10AA@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:13 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote: > no, this is the first I've heard of this > Well, at least the employees are well fed and get lots of primo vitamin C. Those trees are literally raining lemons. This is my dwarf Meyer lemon a few years ago: ? -- Lawrence F. 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