From cookfrenchlick at yahoo.com Tue Nov 4 04:35:22 2014 From: cookfrenchlick at yahoo.com (Larry D. Cook) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 01:35:22 -0800 Subject: [nafex] Pawpaws Message-ID: <1415093722.58736.YahooMailBasic@web163005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I didn't know this about Pawpaw Larry D. Cook In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and From ehilborn at mebtel.net Tue Nov 4 20:34:04 2014 From: ehilborn at mebtel.net (Elizabeth Hilborn) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:34:04 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Pawpaws In-Reply-To: <1415093722.58736.YahooMailBasic@web163005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1415093722.58736.YahooMailBasic@web163005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54597E8C.9040808@mebtel.net> Very interesting. This report has a larger list of foods high in Proanthocyanidins in Table 1. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/3/613.long#T1 On 11/4/2014 4:35 AM, Larry D. Cook via nafex wrote: > I didn't know this about Pawpaw > Larry D. Cook > > > > > > > In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and > > From pxbacher at gmail.com Tue Nov 4 20:45:33 2014 From: pxbacher at gmail.com (Peter Chrisbacher) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:45:33 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Pawpaws In-Reply-To: <54597E8C.9040808@mebtel.net> References: <1415093722.58736.YahooMailBasic@web163005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <54597E8C.9040808@mebtel.net> Message-ID: Wow! Very interesting list! I am liking my northern pecans! -Pete Pete Chrisbacher Kennett Square, PA On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: > Very interesting. > > This report has a larger list of foods high in Proanthocyanidins in Table > 1. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/3/613.long#T1 > > > > On 11/4/2014 4:35 AM, Larry D. Cook via nafex wrote: > >> I didn't know this about Pawpaw >> Larry D. Cook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble >> vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and >> pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain >> condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria >> from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are >> particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a >> host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and >> >> >> > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list > maintenance: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > message archives > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > Google message archive search: > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] > nafex list mirror sites: > http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog > http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist > http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist > https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist > Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com > From dvidedevo at yahoo.com Thu Nov 6 06:38:45 2014 From: dvidedevo at yahoo.com (Devin Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 03:38:45 -0800 Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust Message-ID: <1415273925.8076.YahooMailNeo@web160603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust. Consider me interested. From jrplelie at centurylink.net Thu Nov 6 11:43:46 2014 From: jrplelie at centurylink.net (PATTY ) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:43:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust In-Reply-To: <1415273925.8076.YahooMailNeo@web160603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1539047903.22030529.1415292226001.JavaMail.root@centurylink.net> Devin, Don't know if you have visited the Honey Locust Agroforestry website but it does have some good info. I have spoken to Andy Wilson in the past and he sounds pretty knowledgeable but the website and honey locusts may be a passing interest for him. However the info they have online is actually pretty good. This link may help answer your question about honey locust pollination. http://faculty.virginia.edu/honeylocust-agroforestry/agroforestry/HoneylocustAgroforestry.htm Jim Elie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Smith via nafex" To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:38:45 AM Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust. Consider me interested. __________________ nafex mailing list nafex at lists.ibiblio.org Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex message archives http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] nafex list mirror sites: http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com From ehilborn at mebtel.net Thu Nov 6 21:06:25 2014 From: ehilborn at mebtel.net (Elizabeth Hilborn) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 21:06:25 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust In-Reply-To: <1415273925.8076.YahooMailNeo@web160603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1415273925.8076.YahooMailNeo@web160603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <545C2921.8010402@mebtel.net> The ones I have tasted must have fermented; they tasted sweet, but not very good. I am open to another try though. Did you pick up pods that had fallen, or did you pick from the tree? Betsy Hilborn On 11/6/2014 6:38 AM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote: I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust. Consider me interested. From ehilborn at mebtel.net Thu Nov 6 21:08:46 2014 From: ehilborn at mebtel.net (Elizabeth Hilborn) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 21:08:46 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts Message-ID: <545C29AE.4050707@mebtel.net> They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan. It will be interesting to see how the trials go... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141106082032.htm From dwoodard at becon.org Thu Nov 6 20:52:10 2014 From: dwoodard at becon.org (dwoodard at becon.org) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:52:10 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust In-Reply-To: <1539047903.22030529.1415292226001.JavaMail.root@centurylink.net> References: <1539047903.22030529.1415292226001.JavaMail.root@centurylink.net> Message-ID: <3f8219b6c1abcdb248ac4b3f5e0c1514@becon.org> Andy Wilson has been working with honey locust for decades. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:43:46 -0500 (EST), "PATTY " wrote: > Devin, > > Don't know if you have visited the Honey Locust Agroforestry website > but it does have some good info. I have spoken to Andy Wilson in the > past and he sounds pretty knowledgeable but the website and honey > locusts may be a passing interest for him. However the info they > have > online is actually pretty good. This link may help answer your > question about honey locust pollination. > > > http://faculty.virginia.edu/honeylocust-agroforestry/agroforestry/HoneylocustAgroforestry.htm > > Jim Elie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Devin Smith via nafex" > To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:38:45 AM > Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust > > I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am > absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion > that > the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat > them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me > it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different > ways > of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know > the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little > breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if > there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it > would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to > extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they > are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are > possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile > polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for > honey locust. > Consider me interested. From list at ginda.us Fri Nov 7 06:55:41 2014 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 06:55:41 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts In-Reply-To: <545C29AE.4050707@mebtel.net> References: <545C29AE.4050707@mebtel.net> Message-ID: That's interesting. They are, in a sense, competing with the American Chestnut Foundation http://www.acf.org/mission_history.php The ACF also has some blight-resistant trees, and expect to have resistant trees available for planting in about 5 years. They got there by cross-breeding with Chinese chestnuts, but have been re-crossing and re-crossing with American chestnuts, while testing to retain the small number of genes that is responsible for resistence. They are currently working with trees that are 15/16th American. http://www.acf.org/r_r.php On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: > They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan. > > It will be interesting to see how the trials go... > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141106082032.htm > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > message archives > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > Google message archive search: > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] > nafex list mirror sites: > http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog > http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist > http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist > https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist > Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com From organic87 at frontiernet.net Fri Nov 7 08:39:31 2014 From: organic87 at frontiernet.net (Road's End Farm) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:39:31 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts In-Reply-To: <545C29AE.4050707@mebtel.net> References: <545C29AE.4050707@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <87D3571F-DF85-4487-9FB7-5D92C3D91216@frontiernet.net> On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: > They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan. From the article: > This gene doesn't hurt the fungus, but instead detoxifies the acid used by the fungus to attack the tree, essentially changing the fungus from a pathogen to a saprophyte that lives on the bark of the tree without causing significant harm. So these trees will continue to host the fungus, thereby remaining a permanent locus for infection. In many parts of the country, the fungus seems to be persistent in any case; but I'm not sure that it's not an issue everywhere. I wonder why they didn't take the resistance genes from the Chinese chestnut, instead of from a plant as distantly related as wheat? I don't know whether the Chinese chestnut genes allow the tree to continue hosting the fungus or not -- does anyone else? -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic produce, small scale From list at ginda.us Fri Nov 7 09:36:16 2014 From: list at ginda.us (Ginda Fisher) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:36:16 -0500 Subject: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts In-Reply-To: <87D3571F-DF85-4487-9FB7-5D92C3D91216@frontiernet.net> References: <545C29AE.4050707@mebtel.net> <87D3571F-DF85-4487-9FB7-5D92C3D91216@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4fa1508f-d392-4011-ba3b-2ca0fa26f960@email.android.com> Yes, if you read the links I sent, from a group involved in a breeding program to introduce Chinese chestnut genes into a hybrid that is overwhelmingly American chestnut, you will see that the fungus causes minor cosmetic damage to Chinese chestnuts, but does live in those trees. Chinese chestnut wood was the source of the fungus in the US, wasn't it? (Or maybe European chestnut?) Ginda -- Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? On November 7, 2014 8:39:31 AM EST, Road's End Farm wrote: > >On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote: > >> They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene >which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They >make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic >material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan. > >From the article: > >> This gene doesn't hurt the fungus, but instead detoxifies the acid >used by the fungus to attack the tree, essentially changing the fungus >from a pathogen to a saprophyte that lives on the bark of the tree >without causing significant harm. > >So these trees will continue to host the fungus, thereby remaining a >permanent locus for infection. In many parts of the country, the fungus >seems to be persistent in any case; but I'm not sure that it's not an >issue everywhere. > >I wonder why they didn't take the resistance genes from the Chinese >chestnut, instead of from a plant as distantly related as wheat? I >don't know whether the Chinese chestnut genes allow the tree to >continue hosting the fungus or not -- does anyone else? > > >-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think >Fresh-market organic produce, small scale > > > > >__________________ >nafex mailing list >nafex at lists.ibiblio.org >Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters >subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list >maintenance: >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex >message archives >http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex >Google message archive search: >site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] >nafex list mirror sites: >http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog >http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist >http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist >https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist >Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com From dwoodard at becon.org Mon Nov 10 08:26:39 2014 From: dwoodard at becon.org (dwoodard at becon.org) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:26:39 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLE] "Club" apple varieties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0311bf000018d5cb29f62edf8a36789e@becon.org> See Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario From pxbacher at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 13:21:52 2014 From: pxbacher at gmail.com (Peter Chrisbacher) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:21:52 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLE] "Club" apple varieties In-Reply-To: <0311bf000018d5cb29f62edf8a36789e@becon.org> References: <0311bf000018d5cb29f62edf8a36789e@becon.org> Message-ID: There was a long story on this same topic this morning on NPR - Morning Edition I think... -Pete Pete Chrisbacher Kennett Square PA On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, wrote: > See > want-to-grow-these-apples-youll-have-to-join-the-club> > > Doug Woodard > St. Catharines, Ontario > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list > maintenance: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > message archives > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > Google message archive search: > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] > nafex list mirror sites: > http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog > http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist > http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist > https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist > Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com > From pxbacher at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 13:23:01 2014 From: pxbacher at gmail.com (Peter Chrisbacher) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:23:01 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLE] "Club" apple varieties In-Reply-To: References: <0311bf000018d5cb29f62edf8a36789e@becon.org> Message-ID: Duh - it helps to click on the link before replying ;) -Pete Pete Chrisbacher Kennett Square, PA From dwoodard at becon.org Tue Nov 11 19:22:10 2014 From: dwoodard at becon.org (dwoodard at becon.org) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:22:10 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLE] Crunch: Modern apple growing; the club In-Reply-To: References: <3470b9c3-fcca-405a-b297-ba404a1debc7@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A573508A55C7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <3495c5b9-fe15-484e-ab57-85602ff23a3e@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <82e24bc9f33a053ec4d81cef2f38800f@becon.org> See http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/21/crunch Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario From mdemmon at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 06:54:45 2014 From: mdemmon at gmail.com (Matt Demmon) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:54:45 -0500 Subject: [nafex] [ARTICLE] Crunch: Modern apple growing; the club In-Reply-To: <82e24bc9f33a053ec4d81cef2f38800f@becon.org> References: <3470b9c3-fcca-405a-b297-ba404a1debc7@googlegroups.com> <5A85FA1DC3DB524491801C112E78A573508A55C7@CITESMBX2.ad.uillinois.edu> <3495c5b9-fe15-484e-ab57-85602ff23a3e@googlegroups.com> <82e24bc9f33a053ec4d81cef2f38800f@becon.org> Message-ID: Thanks for this article, more well written than most fruit articles in the mainstream press. This caught my eye: "Minnesota growers who did not wish to join were allowed to plant up to a thousand trees?subsequently increased to three thousand?but could sell the apples only at farmers? markets, local grocery stores, and farm stands. Only Next Big Thing was entitled to sell the apples commercially?i.e., to wholesalers and grocers." I did not realize that managed varieties could be grown by some farmers but not wholesaled. Is this common with managed varieties? That makes the whole thing much more palatable to me. In fact, I feel great about managed varieties now! I liked a lot about it, but it felt too restrictive, that parts of the public who technically funded some of this research were not allowed to enjoy the fruits, if you will. -matt z5 se MI On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:22 PM, wrote: > > See > http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/21/crunch > > Doug Woodard > St. Catharines, Ontario > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > message archives > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > Google message archive search: > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] > nafex list mirror sites: > http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog > http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist > http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist > https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist > Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com From naomi at oznayim.us Fri Nov 14 11:58:54 2014 From: naomi at oznayim.us (Naomi Counides) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:58:54 -0700 Subject: [nafex] single digit freeze, trees nopt dormant? Message-ID: <013401d0002c$478b58e0$d6a20aa0$@oznayim.us> Okay, so what can I expect? Some of my trees still had leaves on them, green ones, and it is supposed to go down to 7 tomorrow night. Naomi From tanisgrif at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 13:59:14 2014 From: tanisgrif at yahoo.com (tanis grif) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nafex] loneroc re MN447s Message-ID: <2075330899.1086808.1416250754535.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10080.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Can't find your current email address in this darned yahoo mail. Can you please post something, or email me, or phone? Thanks. From tanisgrif at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 14:07:31 2014 From: tanisgrif at yahoo.com (tanis grif) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nafex] single digit freeze, trees nopt dormant? In-Reply-To: <013401d0002c$478b58e0$d6a20aa0$@oznayim.us> References: <013401d0002c$478b58e0$d6a20aa0$@oznayim.us> Message-ID: <2141312084.1084861.1416251251287.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100110.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Big trees, or new plantings? I have a couple mature apple trees which always face the deep freeze with some leaves still on, green but freeze-dried by earlier frosts. They always grow well the next year, so I try not to worry. They were grown from scionwood collected locally, from trees surviving tough winters, so that helps with not worrying. Younger trees, I try to mulch if a drastic temperature drop is forecast. But then you have to be sure of your vole excluders. I've recently been trying more trees in pots, until they reach 6-7' height. I can move these to appropriate shelter when needed, but, they can't take the worst winter cold. tc, s.WI, winter On Friday, November 14, 2014 11:30 AM, Naomi Counides wrote: Okay, so what can I expect? Some of my trees still had leaves on them, green ones, and it is supposed to go down to 7 tomorrow night. Naomi __________________ From hwpark at kahres.org Mon Nov 17 14:29:32 2014 From: hwpark at kahres.org (Hank Parker) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:29:32 -0500 Subject: [nafex] loneroc re MN447s In-Reply-To: <2075330899.1086808.1416250754535.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10080.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <2075330899.1086808.1416250754535.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10080.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2E3F2411-33BC-4B33-BE1C-8F599000C9AD@kahres.org> Hank Parker 80 Lyme Road, #1015 Hanover, NH 03755-1237 hwpark at kahres.org > On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:59 PM, tanis grif via nafex wrote: > > Can't find your current email address in this darned yahoo mail. Can you please post something, or email me, or phone? Thanks. > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > message archives > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > Google message archive search: > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] > nafex list mirror sites: > http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog > http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist > http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist > https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist > Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com From sam.brungardt at state.mn.us Wed Nov 19 09:41:53 2014 From: sam.brungardt at state.mn.us (Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:41:53 +0000 Subject: [nafex] Unmarketable black walnuts must be cracked to be separated from marketable nutmeats Message-ID: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E40537E031@055-CH1MPN1-031.055d.mgd.msft.net> Stenospermocarpic fruit linked to unmarketable black walnuts Phys.Org Black walnut (Juglans nigra L.) is native to much of the eastern United States and is highly valued for its nuts and timber. Black walnut fruit generally ... From sam.brungardt at state.mn.us Mon Nov 24 10:43:54 2014 From: sam.brungardt at state.mn.us (Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:43:54 +0000 Subject: [nafex] OSU horticulturist lists least toxic sprays and treatments for fruit trees Message-ID: <1268E36B214F7D4F968B0285BF5CF3E405386017@055-CH1MPN1-032.055d.mgd.msft.net> OSU horticulturist lists least toxic sprays and treatments for fruit trees OregonLive.com Face next season's fruit tree disease and pest problems by making a preventative strategy now. Since late winter is a good time to plant bareroot trees, ... From hortfanatic at gmail.com Tue Nov 25 22:08:27 2014 From: hortfanatic at gmail.com (Victor Johanson) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:08:27 -0900 Subject: [nafex] Cloudberry In-Reply-To: <053601cfe2a3$8becc3d0$a3c64b70$@oznayim.us> References: <053601cfe2a3$8becc3d0$a3c64b70$@oznayim.us> Message-ID: http://www.twiningvinegarden.com/Rubus-chamaemorus-seeds-p/rubus-cham.htm is in Canada, but they ship to the US. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Naomi Counides wrote: > I have a friend looking for Cloudberry starts or seed. Anyone know of a US > source? > > Naomi > > __________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex at lists.ibiblio.org > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list > maintenance: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > message archives > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > Google message archive search: > site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex [searchstring] > nafex list mirror sites: > http://ifneb.blogspot.com IFNEB Blog > http://groups.google.com/group/permaculturelist > http://groups.google.com/group/nafexlist > https://sites.google.com/site/nafexmailinglist > Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com > From dwoodard at becon.org Sun Nov 30 01:01:10 2014 From: dwoodard at becon.org (dwoodard at becon.org) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 01:01:10 -0500 Subject: [nafex] How the date came to the U.S. Message-ID: <8033634426a9ef1a4284cc2660876c7c@becon.org> See Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada From spidra at gmail.com Sun Nov 30 04:31:16 2014 From: spidra at gmail.com (Spidra Webster) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 01:31:16 -0800 Subject: [nafex] How the date came to the U.S. In-Reply-To: <8033634426a9ef1a4284cc2660876c7c@becon.org> References: <8033634426a9ef1a4284cc2660876c7c@becon.org> Message-ID: Thanks for posting this, Doug. The Popenoes were from this area. I didn't hear anything about them growing up but have become fascinated when running across them in my historical research in the past year. Megan Lynch http://www.meganlynch.net South Pasadena, CA