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[Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>]

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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Flavien Bridault wrote:
> Le vendredi 02 septembre 2005 ? 16:15 -0500, Jeremy Blosser (emrys) a
> ?crit :
> > On Sep 02, Flavien Bridault [f.bridault AT fra.net] wrote:
> > > I didn't say that our developers do a bad work in general. I was just
> > > talking on this particular case, when an update breaks a lot of spells.
> > > And there is indeed a big paradox. For example, we are currently
> > > discussing a lot on the better way to ensure sources integrity, we have
> > > a good security team to ensure that our spells are safe, we have great
> > > tools in sorcery, good spells, but on the contrary, we don't care about
> > > breaking tons of packages with a simple update, without any notice in
> > > the spell (even in the HISTORY). Am I the only one to think there is
> > > something wrong with that ?
> > >
> > > I think most people have not enough time to keep an eye on IRC, ML and
> > > bugzilla as you suggest. And I also believe we lose users when such
> > > things happen.
> > > But maybe I do not well understand the purposes of SMGL and the people
> > > we want to address to...
> >
> > Isn't the purpose of the test grimoire to find problems like this so that
> > people can mention them before they get to stable and we can decide how
> > best to respond?
> I expected such an answer. ;-)
> Yes, it is true that 'test' grimoire is designed, as its name means to
> test spells. :=)
> Hopelessly, we know well that a lot of normal users use it [0]. It's
> true however that they take a risk and they are warned.
> But in this case, the maintainer knew well that the update broke a lot.
> He updated it in july in devel, so I think he had enough time to notice
> that.
> And even if this grimoire is only designed to developers, I think this
> would be good to not waste the time they can provide to SMGL.

This doesn't happen if the recommended method of updating is used:
`sorcery system-update` (or `sorcery -s` for the lazy ;)). That will
update Sorcery, the grimoires, clean do some cleaning, update spells,
and then check integrity (IIRC).

- -sandalle

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Eric Sandall                     |  Source Mage GNU/Linux Developer
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