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[Rhonda Baird <rk.baird@yahoo.com>]

This looks wonderful, Bob. Thank you for making the contribution. 
-rhonda baird
> On Jul 15, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
> 
> Here's the table of contents of the Invisible Structures section of my 
> ebook on urban permaculture.  If this looks interesting, you can buy the 
> whole ebook for $1.99 at http://www.ipermie.net. (You can buy a pdf format 
> at the site, or follow links to ebook superstores like Amazon kindle, Apple 
> iStore, etc to buy versions suitable for other ereader platforms.)
> 
> Bob Waldrop, Okie City
> 
> 
> Section 1: Invisible Structures
> 
> It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick 
> society. /Jiddu Krishnamurti/
> 
> Justice and power must be brought together, so that whatever is just may be 
> powerful, and whatever is powerful may be just. /Blaise Pascal/
> 
> *Section List of Chapters*
> 
> *01011 Invisible Structure Basics* <#ref_01011>
> Structures, systems, religions, organizations, political and economic 
> systems, all the "software" that makes human societies work. We move 
> towards creating a society where it is easier to care for people, care for 
> the planet, and have a care for the future.
> 
> *01021 Invisible structures for urban and college permaculture* <#ref_01021>
> The special circumstances involving invisible structures of urban and 
> college/university situations.
> 
> *01031 Design issues in our urban realities* <#ref_01031>
> The importance of local governments. 18 urban design imperatives. Problems 
> of cities.
> 
> *01041 Invisible Structure Toolbox* <#ref_01041>
> 14 interesting permaculture design tools useful in urban areas.
> 
> *01051 Zones in Invisible Structures* <#ref_01051>
> Memes, habits/behaviors, structures, systems, communities, cultures, 
> peoples, species. Eight zones for permaculture work.
> 
> *01061 Observations About Invisible Structures* <#ref_01061>
> Invisible structures have consequences. Changing invisible structures has 
> consequences. Be careful! The problem of unintended consequences.
> 
> *01071 Succession and Invisible Structures* <#ref_01071>
> Memetic evidence of damaged cultural ecologies, first, second, and third 
> order change agents.
> 
> *01081 Extended Families, Groups, Organizations* <#ref_01081>
> The utility and importance of voluntary cooperation and kinship bonds.
> 
> *01091 Open Source Resistance and the Occupy Movement* <#ref_01091>
> Replicating lessons from the Occupy movement.
> 
> *01101 Community Permaculture Projects* <#ref_01101>
> Ideas for community permaculture projects in cities and on campus.
> 
> *01111 The problem of rent-seeking* <#ref_01111>
> What happens when invisible structures corrupt and go bad.
> 
> *01121 Structures of Control and Liberation* <#ref_01121>
> Memes of control and liberation. How those in control stay in power and how 
> they oppress the rest of us. The importance of self-fulfilling prophecies.
> 
> *01131 War, peace, and justice* <#ref_01131>
> Laying the foundation for a future of peace with justice.
> 
> *01141 The Melbourne Principles* <#ref_01141>
> Ten principles for sustainable cities, adopted in 2002.
> 
> *01151 The Methods of Nonviolent Action* <#ref_01151>
> From the Albert Einstein Institution, by Dr. Gene Sharp, 198 ideas for 
> nonviolent action. Used here with permission of the author..
> 
> *01161 Social Justice and the Oppression of the Poor* <#ref_01161>
> More on invisible structures gone wrong. How modern societies oppress the 
> poor and profit from it.
> 
> *01171 Invisible Structure Inventory* <#ref_01171>
> The beginning of an inventory of your involvement with invisible structures 
> and your first thoughts on necessary evolutions in invisible structures.
> 
> *01181 Invisible Structure Design Issues* <#ref_01181>
> Two design challenges to get you started.
> 
> *01191 Additional resources for Invisible Structures* <#ref_01191>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/15/2016 7:32 PM, scott@permaculture.org wrote:
>> I thought you would never ask!!
>> 
>> 
>>>  On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:52 PM, <scott@permaculture.org> wrote:
>>>    >  Life is not "just" about how to sharpen colters to get cleaner 
>>> planting
>>>  > rows, nor how to make maple syrup it is also about how to deal  with 
>>> greed,
>>>  >
>>>    Reality check: I have no clue as to how to deal with greed. Do you? 
>>> Please
>>>  enlightn us. I am tired of tilting at windmills when I need to be totally
>>>  occupied with survival.
>>>  Seriously. No pi in the sky for me. No religion and no politics either.
>>>  Just survival and when I have made progress then I will gladly help 
>>> others.
>> One  way to stop greed is to develop systems that do not reward greed.  
>> One of the best models I know of is the Mondragon Co-op system in the 
>> Basque country of Spain.  This is a system that does not allow anyone in 
>> the co-op make more than six times the pay of the lowest paid co-op 
>> member.  Guess what?  If the ceo wants to make more money he has to find a 
>> way to see that the lowest paid also makes more money.  The worker owned 
>> co-ops are starting to appear in the US particularly in Ohio and they are 
>> keeping jobs in the community  and operating based on the second and third 
>> ethics of permaculture.
>>>      > how to share resources and information and much much more.
>>>  >
>>>    EX ACT LY. By all means share resources and information and whatever 
>>> else
>>>  we feel incluned to share. This is what I have been promoting in this 
>>> list
>>>  from its start in 1992.
>>>    Ah, the psychology behind getting people to follow a cause. Try luring 
>>> them
>>>  with the food you have taught them to raise for themselves and their
>>>  grateful neighbors in the communities they helped build. Do it now, 
>>> before
>>>  all humanity of engulfed in the war machine and full bkown corporate
>>>  domination using the war machine to gain its objectives, just like in the
>>>  Hollywood movies, like Blade Runner.
>>>    How about a balance between posts on dealing with greed versus ethics 
>>> and
>>>  concentrated permaculture design and site construction. With the latter
>>>  comes POWER to people. With the former, who knows but lots of energy
>>>  expended in the process until one wakes up to the fact that there is no
>>>  food on the table or clean water to drink. Do the math. Count the hours
>>>  spent on implementation of good permaculture design and the benefits
>>>  derived from such. There needs to be a balance and I will promote that to
>>>  the end of my days and my legacy will continue that after I am gone. Look
>>>  objectively at a balance between awareness and adoption of the 
>>> permaculture
>>>  ethics as you have defined them and pure nuts and bolts Earth-based
>>>  permaculture design living on a site where that design has been created.
>>>    LL
>>>  
>> I am not sure I understand your dichotomy between ethics and greed.  You 
>> solve greed by following the ethics...
>> 
>> 
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