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  • From: <scott@permaculture.org>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture Invisible Structures
  • Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:43:55 -0600

Thanks Bob Waldrop this should keep people happy for a minute or two....

> -------Original Message-------
>
> Here's the table of contents of the Invisible Structures section of my
> ebook on urban permaculture.  If this looks interesting, you can buy the
> whole ebook for $1.99 at http://www.ipermie.net. (You can buy a pdf
> format at the site, or follow links to ebook superstores like Amazon
> kindle, Apple iStore, etc to buy versions suitable for other ereader
> platforms.)
>
> Bob Waldrop, Okie City
>
>
>   Section 1: Invisible Structures
>
> It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick
> society. /Jiddu Krishnamurti/
>
> Justice and power must be brought together, so that whatever is just may
> be powerful, and whatever is powerful may be just. /Blaise Pascal/
>
> *Section List of Chapters*
>
> *01011 Invisible Structure Basics* <#ref_01011>
> Structures, systems, religions, organizations, political and economic
> systems, all the "software" that makes human societies work. We move
> towards creating a society where it is easier to care for people, care
> for the planet, and have a care for the future.
>
> *01021 Invisible structures for urban and college permaculture*
> <#ref_01021>
> The special circumstances involving invisible structures of urban and
> college/university situations.
>
> *01031 Design issues in our urban realities* <#ref_01031>
> The importance of local governments. 18 urban design imperatives.
> Problems of cities.
>
> *01041 Invisible Structure Toolbox* <#ref_01041>
> 14 interesting permaculture design tools useful in urban areas.
>
> *01051 Zones in Invisible Structures* <#ref_01051>
> Memes, habits/behaviors, structures, systems, communities, cultures,
> peoples, species. Eight zones for permaculture work.
>
> *01061 Observations About Invisible Structures* <#ref_01061>
> Invisible structures have consequences. Changing invisible structures
> has consequences. Be careful! The problem of unintended consequences.
>
> *01071 Succession and Invisible Structures* <#ref_01071>
> Memetic evidence of damaged cultural ecologies, first, second, and third
> order change agents.
>
> *01081 Extended Families, Groups, Organizations* <#ref_01081>
> The utility and importance of voluntary cooperation and kinship bonds.
>
> *01091 Open Source Resistance and the Occupy Movement* <#ref_01091>
> Replicating lessons from the Occupy movement.
>
> *01101 Community Permaculture Projects* <#ref_01101>
> Ideas for community permaculture projects in cities and on campus.
>
> *01111 The problem of rent-seeking* <#ref_01111>
> What happens when invisible structures corrupt and go bad.
>
> *01121 Structures of Control and Liberation* <#ref_01121>
> Memes of control and liberation. How those in control stay in power and
> how they oppress the rest of us. The importance of self-fulfilling
> prophecies.
>
> *01131 War, peace, and justice* <#ref_01131>
> Laying the foundation for a future of peace with justice.
>
> *01141 The Melbourne Principles* <#ref_01141>
> Ten principles for sustainable cities, adopted in 2002.
>
> *01151 The Methods of Nonviolent Action* <#ref_01151>
> From the Albert Einstein Institution, by Dr. Gene Sharp, 198 ideas for
> nonviolent action. Used here with permission of the author..
>
> *01161 Social Justice and the Oppression of the Poor* <#ref_01161>
> More on invisible structures gone wrong. How modern societies oppress
> the poor and profit from it.
>
> *01171 Invisible Structure Inventory* <#ref_01171>
> The beginning of an inventory of your involvement with invisible
> structures and your first thoughts on necessary evolutions in invisible
> structures.
>
> *01181 Invisible Structure Design Issues* <#ref_01181>
> Two design challenges to get you started.
>
> *01191 Additional resources for Invisible Structures* <#ref_01191>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/15/2016 7:32 PM, scott@permaculture.org wrote:
> > I thought you would never ask!!
> >
> >
> >>   On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:52 PM, <scott@permaculture.org> wrote:
> >>  
> >>   >  Life is not "just" about how to sharpen colters to get cleaner
> planting
> >>   > rows, nor how to make maple syrup it is also about how to deal  
> with greed,
> >>   >
> >>  
> >>   Reality check: I have no clue as to how to deal with greed. Do you?
> Please
> >>   enlightn us. I am tired of tilting at windmills when I need to be
> totally
> >>   occupied with survival.
> >>   Seriously. No pi in the sky for me. No religion and no politics
> either.
> >>   Just survival and when I have made progress then I will gladly help
> others.
> > One  way to stop greed is to develop systems that do not reward greed.  
> One of the best models I know of is the Mondragon Co-op system in the
> Basque country of Spain.  This is a system that does not allow anyone in
> the co-op make more than six times the pay of the lowest paid co-op member. 
>  Guess what?  If the ceo wants to make more money he has to find a way to
> see that the lowest paid also makes more money.  The worker owned co-ops
> are starting to appear in the US particularly in Ohio and they are keeping
> jobs in the community  and operating based on the second and third ethics
> of permaculture.
> >>  
> >>  
> >>   > how to share resources and information and much much more.
> >>   >
> >>  
> >>   EX ACT LY. By all means share resources and information and whatever
> else
> >>   we feel incluned to share. This is what I have been promoting in this
> list
> >>   from its start in 1992.
> >>  
> >>   Ah, the psychology behind getting people to follow a cause. Try
> luring them
> >>   with the food you have taught them to raise for themselves and their
> >>   grateful neighbors in the communities they helped build. Do it now,
> before
> >>   all humanity of engulfed in the war machine and full bkown corporate
> >>   domination using the war machine to gain its objectives, just like in
> the
> >>   Hollywood movies, like Blade Runner.
> >>  
> >>   How about a balance between posts on dealing with greed versus ethics
> and
> >>   concentrated permaculture design and site construction. With the
> latter
> >>   comes POWER to people. With the former, who knows but lots of energy
> >>   expended in the process until one wakes up to the fact that there is
> no
> >>   food on the table or clean water to drink. Do the math. Count the
> hours
> >>   spent on implementation of good permaculture design and the benefits
> >>   derived from such. There needs to be a balance and I will promote
> that to
> >>   the end of my days and my legacy will continue that after I am gone.
> Look
> >>   objectively at a balance between awareness and adoption of the
> permaculture
> >>   ethics as you have defined them and pure nuts and bolts Earth-based
> >>   permaculture design living on a site where that design has been
> created.
> >>  
> >>   LL
> >>  
> > I am not sure I understand your dichotomy between ethics and greed.  You
> solve greed by following the ethics...
> >
> >
> >>  
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