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[<scott@permaculture.org>]

Joao, thanks for your contribution.  I just read your website link and was 
impressed with what you have done and are attempting.  I will be at the Boom 
Fest in your country next month, hope to see you there.

Scott

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: joao pedro goncalves <joaovox@gmail.com>
>  To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, pt-diploma 
> <pt-diploma@googlegroups.com>
>  Subject: [permaculture] PC - Bill Mollison's Designer's Manual on Ethics, 
> "permaculture nation" and "to guard human rights everywhere"
>  Sent: Jul 16 '16 07:47
>  
>  Quoting:
>  
>  
>  142
>  
>  ETHICAL BASIS OF AN
>  ALTERNATIVE NATION
>  
>  A people without an agreed-upon common basis to
>  their actions is neither a community nor a nation. A
>  people with a common ethic is a nation wherever they
>  live. Thus, the place of habitation is secondary to a
>  shared belief in the establishment of an harmonious
>  world community. Just as we can select a global range
>  of plants for a garden, we can select from all extant
>  ethics and beliefs those elements that we see to be
>  sustainable, useful, and beneficial to life and to our
>  community. It would appear that:
>  
>  • Sustainable societies emphasise the duties and
>  responsibilities of people to nature equal to those of people
>  to people; that any code relates equally to other
>  Itfeforms and elements of landscape. To conduct oneself
>  only in terms of response to other people gives a
>  potential to evade responsibility for damage inflicted
>  on the total resource base, and thus ultimately to others. " (...)
>  
>  
>  143
>  (...)
>  "Most nations in the United Nations repress a majorityof peoples on earth.
>  
>  Talking with Thomas Banyaca, a Hopi messenger of his people,
>  it became clear to me that we need a new concept of "nation", and a
>  new representative
>  body to speak for them.
>  
>  
>  We start by defining a nation as a people subscribing to a common ethic,
>  and aspiring to a similar culture.
>  
>  Such nations may not have a common land base, or language, but do
>  have a common ethic, minimally;
>  
>  • To care for the earth; to repair and conserve;
>  
>  • To seek peace, and to guard human rights every-
>  where; and
>  
>  • To invest all capital, intelligence, goodwill, and
>  labour to these ends."
>  
>  *• To care for the earth; to repair and conserve; *
>  
>  *• To seek peace, and to guard human rights every-
>  where; and
>  
>  • To invest all capital, intelligence, goodwill, and
>  labour to these ends."*
>  
>  
>  
>  
> https://archive.org/details/permaculture_Bill_Moln-PERMACULTURE_A_Designers_Manual
>  
>  
> https://archive.org/stream/permaculture_Bill_Moln-PERMACULTURE_A_Designers_Manual/Bill_Mollison-PERMACULTURE_A_Designers_Manual_djvu.txt
>  
>  
>  I hope it will trigger reflection and help clarify some points in my
>  previous email on Forced Organ Harvest in China and the answer to the new
>  "genocide sector" brought by our duty to guard human rights everywhere.
>  (this statement needs further enquiry)
>  
>  
>  Big mistake:
>  
>  Genocide and forced organ harvest is not just "another example of human
>  cruelty, of the thousands that we are all aware of, does not add to our
>  grasp of permaculture."
>  
>  
>  
>  Do not take your limited freedom for granted, we had world war II with the
>  sacrifice of many soldiers who were or could have been ecological farmers
>  and earth care activists.
>  
>  When there is genocide going, ecology people work towards end of genocide.
>  That is the permaculture ethic stated by Bill Mollison.
>  
>  
>  This changes a bit the perspective and might sound weird but:
>  Could your permaculture, human rights activism, Christian, Budhist, Muslim
>  or other religious practice stop a Nazi war type offense?
>  
>  Care for people also means there is going to be a armed police in your
>  neighborhood and a military force to save you and your children from
>  corrupted and criminal organisations that will kill you for your organs.
>  Yes, we should not stop dreaming of a world without violence by walking the
>  talk.
>  
>  Do not throw way the baby with the bath water, and not deny your
>  response-ability in case you agree "to guard human rights everywhere ...
>  with all capital, intelligence, goodwill, and labour"  ...
>  
>  "Ethics", not ecological principles, are the core of Permaculture and all
>  your actions and needs will be measured against your stated ethic.
>  Practice of ecological principles will be followed after human rights and
>  people care duties have been accomplished.
>  In this case, put the criminal in the jail and only then you will put him
>  to work in the garden, plant trees, prune the pawpaw, keep goats,
>  learn how to design, implicit or in the proccess a new human being will be
>  learning about ethics without realising he is doing such.
>  
>  Not always but, in this case you need justice first and then mercy ...
>  
> <https://permacultureglobal.org/projects/1118-mountain-steep-permaculture-permacultura-em-declive-de-montanha>
>  
>  Best regards,
>  
>  
>  
>  --
>  João Gonçalves
>  
>  "Ao comprar ou consumir de forma ética também está a intervir na paisagem e
>  a decidir quem tem trabalho."
>  
>  "Eating is an agricultural act"  -  "Comer é um acto agrícola" - Wendell
>  Berry
>  
>  "Permacultura (Cultura Permanente) é um sistema ético de design ecológico."
>  
>  (+351) 96 96 80 009
>  Chão Sobral - Oliveira do Hospital - Serra do Açor - Portugal
>  http://ecotrabalho.com/
>  http://permacultureglobal.com/users/902-joao-goncalves
>  http://chaosobral.org/index_pt.htm
>  http://www.youtube.com/joaovox
>  http://agricultura-familiar-tradicional.blogspot.pt
>  https://picasaweb.google.com/joaovox
>  http://picasaweb.google.pt/uniprochaosobral
>  
>  Para descobrir:
>  Documentário "Alface" na Aldeia das Amoreiras
>  http://vimeo.com/58999047
>  Permacultura na Serra do Açor - Portugal
>  http://permaculturinginportugal.net/blog/
>  "Comida que nunca acaba" / Permacultura no Malawi
>  http://www.neverendingfood.org/
>  Centro de Ecologia Integral
>  http://www.integralecology.org
>  Nyumbani - Kenya
>  http://www.nyumbani.org/about-us
>  
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