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  • From: Mark Feineigle <mfeineigle@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Impermanence & Permaculture
  • Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:30:19 -0500

First off, this is not meant as aggression toward anyone, but I feel
someone has to say it.

What is the point of this thread? It isn't a call for solidarity (which I
would stand in). It isn't a deconstruction of the drug war. It is crying
into the abyss because someone got dealt a raw hand. It doesn't even say
WHAT is happening. Are you being threatened? Can you not pay your
(essential) bills? Is your region being evacuated/eminent domain? Are you
choosing to leave because you are (rightfully) scared? We can't offer any
advice if we don't know what the exact problem is.

Then the associating permaculture, negatively, with impermanence. How does
asking unanswerable philosophical questions A.) get the land back, B.) stop
the drug war, or C.) help the permaculture community? And... everyone
chimes in because we all love talking about philosophy.

This is another divisive thread that does nothing but distract from real
issues. Whether it is an alphabet soup agency behind it, or just some
person who is caught up in being the center of the world... same results:
wasted time while permaculture is trash-talked/defended on non-issues. We
are all going to die. The sun is going to burn out. Why do we do anything?
Are these "real" questions? Sure, but they do not belong on a permaculture
list.

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is
striking at the root." -Thoreau

The drug wars in Mexico exist because the USA LOVES cocaine, heroin, and
their associated profits. The USA produces most of its own cannabis and
methamphetamine (we have hit television *programming* to glorify it), but
imports the rest. Ideally, the USA would stop consuming these drugs or
decriminalize them to remove the ultra profits from the supply chain
running through Mexico.

There are many drug cartels in Mexico (and all over, check out the Afghan
poppy fields) vying for a piece of the profit pie. This competition
complicates everything. The USA's Eric Holder decided that giving money and
guns via Operation Fast and Furious to the Sinaloa Cartel would allow them
to dispatch the competing cartels (The enemy of my enemy is my friend.) and
streamline the supply chain with a monopoly - completely disregarding the
escalation we have seen.

If you want to stop the drug wars in Mexico, you're going to need to shoot
the correct target, the USA/NATO MIC/IMF Empire. My suggestion is to
disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions. As others
have said: expect things to get worse before they get better.

"One may miss the mark by aiming too high as too low." -Fuller

As for culture not being "permanent"... I'd say the Australian Abos,
American Indians, Maya, Bedouin, and many more had long cultural lives.
That is, until they ran into the Empire de jour. Cultures change the same
way trees change as they grow, slowly, in a "natural" way. Ever since Rome
(likely before), cultures have been changing (assimilate or die) at the
barrel of a gun.

-Mark Feineigle

PS - The TierrAmor project looks awesome. Great work!

PPS - Call to action for more black sheep, please.




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