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[georg parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at>]

In 'Collapse' Jared Diamond clearly says, that it is _always_ several  
factors, that lead to the downfall of a civilisation. One always is,  
that external, vital factors change (climatic change, or depletion of  
soils, which is a selfmade agricultural problem), and the other one  
involved is mismanagement. And this is where our not-human-centered  
economic system comes in... it is a grave management mistake.

Georg



Am 10.03.2014 um 03:17 schrieb Pete Gasper, Gasper Family Farm:

> Do you think this still holds true for industrial civilizations  
> which are
> greatly decoupled from agriculture and driven by economic engines  
> tied more
> to skilled trades and technology?
>
> There is very much a sense here in the US that we peaked as a  
> civilization
> and are rapidly going through the phases of decadence and fall. But  
> I'm not
> sure I can point to causal links between our own agricultural
> unsustainability and the problems we're suffering. They seem as much
> sociological. Societies seem to have a cycle like any living thing  
> of birth,
> growth, maturity, stagnation and death.
>
> Is this only natural or can it be cheated like a coppiced tree lives  
> for
> otherwise unnatural lengths of time?
>
> Pete
>
> On 03/07/2014 01:04 PM, Steve Hart wrote:
> > Jared diamond in his
> > book "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed". suggests  
> > that the
> > majority if not all civilisation rises and falls from its  
> > agriculture.
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