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["Joan Huyser-Honig" <joan@hhcreatives.com>]

Lawrence,

I've been reading these exchanges with Toby and am impressed with your
diplomatic responses and non-defensiveness.

All the best,
Joan

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-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence F.
London, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:20 AM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] How Much Land Does It Take To Become Food
Self-Reliant

Richard Archer wrote:
> At 11:50 PM -0400 12/5/10, Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> 
>> If it becomes a popular idea for everyone to try and become food
>> self-sufficient in a bioregion then, with urban and rural farms
>> involved, trying to meet the needs of a limited number of customers or
>> coop members only in their immediate locale, then you just might be able
>> to have enough cereals, nuts, fruits, herbs to go around with the rest
>> of the growers supplying vegetables or other services in barter or for
>> sale but through their immediate network.
> 
> Lawrence,
> 
> I think you should go back and read Toby's essay again.
> You're railing against it, yet in your two responses
> you have made several points supporting his conclusion.
> 
> Just above for example you've made the point that in order
> to be self-sufficient in food you need a community with
> different people specialising in different areas and
> trading with each other.
> 
> Which is exactly the point Toby is making.
> You can't do it alone, you need community.
> 
> Permaculture is all about networks and interactions.

Amen Richard, thanks for reminding me and apologies to Toby!

It IS all about networking.
I just meant closer, better organized and dedicated networks 
participating in achieving local food self-sufficiency and increasing 
the bounty ofered by local foodsheds. It affects everyone.

...:LL
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