permaculture

["souscayrous" <souscayrous@tiscali.fr>]

Hello Lawrence, I'd be careful about defining Permaculture too grandly and
certainly as an umbrella concept that 'uses' other concepts and practices.
On what does pc stand to take such a broad perspective that it can include
speculative science fiction concepts that have nothing to do with any
current sustainable practice, or natural agriculture, which specifically
rejects such 'use' (instrumentalist) conceptualisation?

This is in no way intended to denigrate Robert who is doing, day in and day
out, an enormous amount of work toward a sustainable future.

Jamie
Souscayrous

-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Lawrence F.
London, Jr.
Sent: jeudi 19 janvier 2006 08:31
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture,what are the
connections

Robert Waldrop wrote:
> It seems to me that the correct way of formulating
> this would be to say "permaculture is a total
> concept that can use natural agriculture,
> terramechanics, terraforming, local food
> production, wildscaping etc.  "  In other words,
> permaculture is not just another parallel concept
> to wildscaping, local food production, natural
> agriculture.  Permacultue IS the total concept
> design system, which may use any number of
> sub-systems like wildscaping, natural agriculture,
> terraforming, etc. to achieve its goals.  This
> seems to imply a narrow vision of permaculture as
> forest gardening with a design manual, or orchard
> keeping, when in fact permaculture is a total
> design concept under whose wings the rest of these
> strategies can rest comfortably and productively.

That says it perfectly, Robert. If its OK with you I am going to stick this
in the homepage for this list -
let me know if you want me to add a credit to you reading anything different
than "a definition of permaculture provided
by one of this list's subscribers, Robert Waldrop, OKC". If I can fit it on
I'll add it to the

Permaculture could also be described as "the source from which many Earth
stewardship disciplines flow".


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