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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections
- From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:23:12 -0500
souscayrous wrote:
Hello Lawrence, I'd be careful about defining Permaculture too grandly and
certainly as an umbrella concept that 'uses' other concepts and practices.
On what does pc stand to take such a broad perspective that it can include
speculative science fiction concepts that have nothing to do with any
current sustainable practice, or natural agriculture, which specifically
rejects such 'use' (instrumentalist) conceptualisation?
This is in no way intended to denigrate Robert who is doing, day in and day
out, an enormous amount of work toward a sustainable future.
Jamie
Souscayrous
Hello Jamie:
I used the term terraforming loosely as a reference to a process rather than
where it was carried out.
I had in mind permaculture systems design and installation on a grand scale, i.e. big single site projects, as with the Sahara Project. It is a good intellectual exercise to think of ways to farm on the moon, though, and even, in the event of cataclysmic climatic or geophysical events on Earth rendering human habitation here untenable, reach other planetary systems hosting somewhere within, Earthlike environments, favorable to life as we know it, and devise ways to farm on one or more of them. This seems to me to be reality rather than fantasy. I have always enjoyed fantasy and science fiction. Its a good escape from time to time.
I am especially interested in converting difficult or infertile soil into
productive, well-tilthed farm soil,
using whatever mechanical means necessary within a strategy that allows Nature to take over the process over time with less and less human intervention (that's when really good hand tools enter the picture; I am working on several designs
to produce and share with others interested, to try in different climates and
soil conditions).
LL
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming means what?
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming means what?,
John Schinnerer, 01/20/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming means what?,
drducc, 01/20/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Terraforming means what?, Martin Naylor, 01/20/2006
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[permaculture] Sahara project,
John Schinnerer, 01/21/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Sahara project, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/21/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Sahara project, John Schinnerer, 01/22/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Sahara project, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/22/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Sahara project, souscayrous, 01/23/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming means what?,
drducc, 01/20/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming means what?,
John Schinnerer, 01/20/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections,
souscayrous, 01/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections,
Robert Waldrop, 01/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/20/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections, Martin Naylor, 01/20/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Terraforming and Permaculture, what are the connections,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/20/2006
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