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  • From: Chad Knepp <pyg@galatea.org>
  • To: Permaculture Plant Database <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] data/security model proposal
  • Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:16:19 -0600

Bear Kaufmann writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry to not be active in the discussion of late, been busy with other
> work....
>
> > o The elements of the current plant report that are titled Cultural
> > Notes, Propagation Notes, Known Hazards, Edible Uses, Medicinal
> > Uses, and Other Uses will become comments by PFAF attached to the
> > plant object (with a high score)
> >
> I like this basic model. It would be nice to figure out a way to
> visually characterize these as more unique...maybe different classes of
> Score have a rather different look. High = "bigger, bolder" more
> integrated (keeping the created by/at time discrete), fading out to
> being less integrated...(diverging from the background color?)
>
> Should sub-comments be collapsable or be a user pref a la SlashDot
> (IIRC)?

Yeah, I get a lot of my ideas from the way slashdot works.

> Also, the one nice thing about a wiki is it's editing one blob of
> text....how can these attached comments roll into the main record
> effectively. Possibly arranged by human to make logical sense, not just
> chronological order. Maybe comments can be in a form of inline text,
> users can edit a Sort Order value (ie for logical flow, not value)....

Well, I was thinking that this would be a user pref. as well with the
default being highest scoring things being nearest to the top.
Setting preferences to sort highest scoring items to the top and to
not display items below a certain score (ala slashdot) would IMO give
some really good info. Other prefs. can be created as needed for
things like logical flow, etc.

> OK, this writing brings up this vision:
> First order (descended directly from Plant) "comments" receive a "box",
> or heading font, something that makes them special. Most comments below
> that are thought of as inline text. They receive a footnote number at
> their end which when [clicked | hovered] [opens | pops up] a [window |
> CSS box], with author info, date, and scoring links/menus. Comments
> with high ranks get a dark black color, fading towards the background
> color for low rank comments. (Users could choose to get a summary, with
> only the top 10%, 25%, percentile comments...)

More or less what I was thinking, but much prettier ;-)

> New comments (Sort Order Rank = nil) are appended at the end of the
> First Order Comment box, and users/high ranking moderators can decide
> where in the text they belong, sort order is no longer nil and it no
> longer appears appended...

My only concern is in creating a system that requires extra human
input. If I'm hearing you correctly it sounds like you're suggesting
human input into how things are displayed in addition to moderation
input. Not sure how to get people to want to do this... although it's
pretty easy to ask folks to tag some element as either helpful or
useless and let that moderation affect its display thereafter.

>
> Cheers,
> Bear

--
Chad Knepp
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