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  • From: Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Where are the martyrs for stable and free iraq?
  • Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:35:22 -0400

[yes]

the fact is that by invading this bad, yet sovereign, nation, has only
pissed people off. sure there are people who are happy to be free, but
they are sacred into remaining home by the vocal ones who aren't. and
those are the same vocal ones who would be willing to strap themselves
to a load of explosives or sacrifice their life flying a plane to
attack what they see as an imperialistic, overbearing aggressor who
has invaded their country

although afghanistan isn't as bad as iraq, there are similar things
going on their. there numerous accounts of intimidation and threats
about the election there, so much so that it can hardly be called a
free election. it may not be breeding as many terrorists, but its just
as far from being a success as iraq is.

~ian

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:29:03 -0400, Jeremy Portzer <jeremyp AT pobox.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 08:57, zman wrote:
>
> > They were not a part of Bush's war on terror. Now they are operating with
> > Guerilla tactics, pretty uch the same as we encoutnered in Vietnam. These
> > people you are labeling terrorists now aren't the people W was chasing.
> > These are not the Al Qada. These are not the ones responsible for 9/11. To
> > try and justify our invasion of Iraq by lumping them in there with them
> > is highly inaccurate, but par for the course as far as the Bush loyal are
> > concerned.
> >
>
> Isn't it pretty ironic that Bush supposedly invaded Iraq because it was
> creating a climate for terrorists (e.g. Al Queda). But what has the
> invasion resulted in, but a climate that is now amenable to many
> terrorist organizations of all types. Rather than reducing terrorism,
> he has increased it multiple times. Isn't that the definition of
> failure?
>
> Jeremy
>
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