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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

I'm going to guess that a lot of people see him as a smooth talker that says 
one thing and does another.  Have you seen the video clips where kids are 
marching around chanting the benefits of Obamacare in a military type voice 
and then doing a new-age salute? 

Whether intentional or not, it is reminiscent of when Hitler came to power.


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From: Lynn Wigglesworth lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com



I can't believe the fuss about President Obama's speech to school children! 
People claim he's 'indoctrinating' children (we all know about the 'mind 
control vibes' broadcasts send out), and tell parents to take their children 
out of school that day because children "shouldn't be required" to listen to 
the president. What message does THAT send to children? To me, to refuse to 
even let your children listen is total disrespect to the office of the 
President (and disrespectful of the children; not letting them form their own 
opinions).

Reagan and Bush Sr. both spoke nation-wide to schools. Reagan's was 
apparently very political, laced with how he cut taxes, etc. Was there this 
kind of protest over his speech (I was out of school and didn't have kids 
yet, so I'm clueless)? What has this country come to?

Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co. PA


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This is happening on my Red Pontiacs only.

The reds P's have a lot of eyes, and some of them have sprouted those little 
"things" from the eyes while in the ground.  So when I harvest them, they 
practically look like they are ready to plant in the spring.

Should I save these as "seed potatoes"?

Most of the ones that have those are very small - i.e. 2" in diameter.



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There are a lot of people in this country who are raising their children
as they see fit, which is not always in the mindset of 'serve your
country'. These days, people are not asking what they can do for their
country, they are asking what their country will be doing for them. (Sad
but true, IMO)  I realize that President Obama claims to address this
very point, but many people are suspicious of exactly what his message
will be.  Additionally, there are a lot of people who are dissatisfied
with public schools, but who have not or can not pull their children out
to homeschool or to private school.   I believe it is in part these
people who are now becoming more vocal about government involvement in
their lives. In these parts, the attitude is "Don't lecture my children
on what they should be doing for their country-go and lecture the
Congress on social activism and service or your Czars or whatever-just
leave me alone".

No one wants to be 'forced' into anything.  At some schools, watching
the speech is mandatory.  A lot of parents want to know what will be
said and why.  They don't want the assignment list-that's for
teachers-they want the speech...  They know of Obama's intent to reform
education, and they are leery.

Even those who supported Obama and were neutral to him have recently
taken issue with his appointments and declarations.  A lot of people,
for example, are upset with his labeling of 9/11 as a "National Day of
Service".  Some parents want their children to remember 9/11 for the
lives lost in the attack on our country.   Additionally, there is a lot
of concern about some of his appointments, like Green Jobs Czar Van
Jones who has linked pollution with race issues in the past, and who
calls himself a socialist and communist.  Standard thinking is that if
President Obama does not want to be called a Socialist or a Communist,
why does he continue to associate with those ideologies, act as if he
personally believes in such(share the wealth, among other things), and
promote and appoint people like Jones who claim to be
Socialist/Communist/Marxist and who as recently as February
sarcastically asked "How's capitalism working for ya?".  Things like
that scare a lot of conservatives(half the country) and they don't want
their children to be a part of that.  If Obama would release his speech
and make parents aware of what will be said, I think you would see a lot
less paranoia about it.
In 300 years, the Romanov's produced 18 czars in Russia.  President
Nixon had one, an Energy Czar, even though it wasn't really called that;
  In the Reagan administration, Joe Biden, of all people, coined the term
Drug Czar when the War on Drugs was initiated.  Clinton added an AIDS
czar, Bush added a Cybersecurity czar, a Regulatory czar, Faith based
czar, a Manufacturing czar, a Katrina Czar, a Bird Flu czar,
Intelligence Czar, a Copyright Czar, a Spy Czar, a Corruption czar, a
TARP czar and a War czar. I'm probably missing a few in the Clinton and
Bush administrations, but you get the idea Previous administrations had
between 1 and 15 czars for various things.  It seems like up until
President Obama, the czars were more or less appointees who would
oversee  certain crises or what should be temporary problems like Bird
Flu and Hurricane Katrina, at least until the last few years of the
President Bush's administration when more and more czars were named..
However, in less than nine months, President Obama has created the
following permanent positions(exceptions as noted):

Border Czar Alan Bersin
Energy czar Carol Browner
Urban affairs czar Adolfo Carrion, Jr.
Infotech czar Vivek Kundra
Faith-based czar Joshua DuBois--continued from Bush Admin

Health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle
TARP/Bailout czar Herb Allison--continued from Bush Admin
Stimulus accountability czar Earl Devaney
Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore
Terrorism czar John Brennan

Regulatory czar--continued from Bush Admin
Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske--continuation of Reagan Admin
Guantanamo closure czar Daniel Fried
Science and weather czar John Holdren
Green jobs czar Anthony 'Van' Jones

Intelligence Czar Dennis Blair (confirmed as the Director of
Nat.Intel.)--continued from Bush Admin
Weapons Czar Ashton Carter
Technology Czar Aneesh Chopra
AIDS Czar Jeffrey Crowley
Great Lakes Czar Cameron Davis

Pay Czar Kenneth Feinberg
Sudan Czar J. Scott Gration
Afghanistan Czar Richard Holbrooke
Mideast Peace Czar George Mitchell
Auto Recovery Czar Ed Montgomery

Car Czar Ron Bloom
Mideast Policy Czar Dennis Ross
WMD Czar Gary Samore
Domestic Violence Czar Lynn Rosenthal
Climate Czar Todd Stern

Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein --continued from Bush Admin
Economic Czar I Larry Summers
Economic Czar II Paul Volcker
California Water Czar David J. Hayes
Government Performance Czar Jeffrey Zients

Disinformation Czar Linda Douglass
Media Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd
Education Czar Arne Duncan (confirmed as Secretary of Education)
Food Safety Czar Michael Taylor
Latin American Czar Arturo Valenzuela

Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings
Trade Czar Ron Kirk
Cybersecurity czar Melissa Hathaway(resigned)--continued from Bush Admin
War Czar Douglas Lute--continued from Bush Admin

That's 44 to date, with no end in sight and surely more to come.
Potential Czars will include Income Redistribution Czar(WTF?-I'll bet
that gets renamed!), Protection Czar, aka Mortgage Czar, Land-Use Czar,
Radio-Internet Fairness Czar, Student Loan Czar, Voter List Czar, Zoning
Czar, etc. etc. ad nauseum

This is serious stuff. Czar appointments are fundamentally changing our
government. They do not have to be approved or confirmed by Congress or
be forced to testify in Congressional hearings. They answer to no one
except President Obama, and their position holds a status over the
Senate approved and appointed Cabinet Secretaries and they have the
luxury of NO accountability.  They are not beholden to testify before
any kind of investigation.  Is this the way he creates new jobs? He is
doing the same thing Bush did, only he is expanding on it and making it
more permanent!

In the Constitution, there is the advice and consent clause, which
requires POTUS to obtain Senate approval for appointments like Cabinet
secretaries, ambassadors and other officials like the director of the
CIA. This separates the executive and legislative branches and provides
a republic balance since the Senators are elected.  Legally, the czars,
as presidential advisers, don't need confirmation, but when they take
over duties of other officials who have that confirmation, you enter a
giant gray area under the constitution, in my opinion.  President Obama,
as someone who taught Constitutional Law is well aware of these
loopholes. Most importantly, he campaigned on the promise of
accountability and transparency and inclusion.  All of these czar
appointments run counter to that promise.  It certainly does not include
my voice or yours or our respective Senators.  There certainly is no
accountability, and with that, no transparency.  The people should have
a voice in the appointments through their Senators.  Our forefathers
specifically wrote the constitution so that the Executive Branch could
not consolidate power by officials who have been confirmed by the Senate.

I guess I digressed a bit there, combining off list conversations with
list conversations, but I think it is all related. In my opinion, the
Obama administration is exploring the boundaries of the constitution and
finally, with the Jones hoopla and other missteps, people are starting
to pay attention and question when is enough, enough and because they
are not being heard or acknowledged-the Obama train rolls on doing as it
wants-the people are becoming more upset, and things that might
otherwise get little attention, like a presidential address to the
nation's schoolchildren, now become huge issues of control.  Parents
want to be in control of what their children hear, see, and learn.  Many
resent Obama's emphasis on what they understand as social activism in
lieu of academic proficiency. The old Bill Ayers/Annenberg controversy
is about to raise its head again.  Education reform?  Many parents in
this part of the country are saying 'Thanks but no thanks, stick to
healthcare-if you can succeed in fixing that mess, maybe we will be more
open to your education reform ideas...'  This whole mess is a symptom of
the larger problem at hand.  As if NCLB wasn't a big enough mess, now we
will be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Bev, who has many friends who are teachers
p.s. in case anyone is wondering, I will be returning to the workforce,
and hence leaving the list, on October 1st.



Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
>
> I can't believe the fuss about President Obama's speech to school
> children! People claim he's 'indoctrinating' children (we all know
> about the 'mind control vibes' broadcasts send out), and tell parents
>  to take their children out of school that day because children
> "shouldn't be required" to listen to the president. What message does
>  THAT send to children? To me, to refuse to even let your children
> listen is total disrespect to the office of the President (and
> disrespectful of the children; not letting them form their own
> opinions).
>
> Reagan and Bush Sr. both spoke nation-wide to schools. Reagan's was
> apparently very political, laced with how he cut taxes, etc. Was
> there this kind of protest over his speech (I was out of school and
> didn't have kids yet, so I'm clueless)? What has this country come
> to?
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth Tioga Co. PA
>

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