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> >My point  is just that you cannot think the 25 dollars per month they 
> charge per person  actually pays for their health care system. 

That's certainly true,  most of the money comes from taxes of some sort or 
the other.   But the US spends 17% of its GDP on health care with a 
significant portion of its citizens not receiving any.  Canada spends 9.7% of 
its 
GDP and all citizens are covered.

The US government already pays 48% of all health care in the US through 
Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Military, and other such programs.  Also because of 
rising numbers of uninsured because of the deepening recession, some groups 
are 
putting the estimate at 18%.  This isn't entirely mathmatically sound, but 
that leaves only 34% of the health care costs that are paid by some private 
insurance plan.  I belive contributors to this thread have well established 
that government programs cost less per person covered than do private 
programs.  Taking this as  whole, we are paying a huge, HUGE percent of our 
GDP 
for privately funded medical services that in the end only cover some ot the 
expense for some of the people.

James