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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

LOL - you liked that tatoo !!!  Hmm, maybe we should make medical ID 
bracelets like that and sell them.......... ;-)
 
Actually, my original idea about that stemmed from the fact that we are no 
longer able to see itemized bills of what our health care actually costs like 
we could in the old days.  In the old days, I could call my insurance company 
and tell them, "Hey, I never used that, and made them remove it from my room 
so I wouldn't get charged, or never had that drug or service" etc.  Now you 
can't get that and have no idea if the hospital is overcharging the insurance 
company.
 
And try getting a quote up front for medical care costs............ Ain't 
happening.  Yet we wouldn't fill up our grocery carts or go to a car mechanic 
without FIRST asking, "how much?" and then deciding if we wan't to 
purchase.....
 
In the case of being unconcious, I was thinking geez, if they treat me 
without my permission, they are then going to force me to pay for something I 
didn't ask for, and didn't give them permission for, and wrack up a bill so 
high that if conscious, I would object to and seek alternative more 
affordable treatment or possibly none at all.
 
Made me wonder what would happen if when later conscious when they rush in 
and get you to sign authorization guaranteeing payment, I signed in legible 
script my name as "Sorry I Refuse" or "Treated without my Permission" on the 
signature line guaranteeing payment.....
 
Out of curiousity one time, I used my credit card and instead of signing my 
name I signed it "Same As Last Time".  Nobody ever checked my 
signature............. (Of course I did pay the bill, but I was curious to 
see if the clerk would actually look....)  With that in mind, I was wondering 
if I signed refuse to pay on a hospital bill and they didn't catch it and I 
simultaneously asked to be discharged.... if they could later force me to 
pay.... 
 
My mom has bad luck with docs also.  
 
 
 

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:



My mother has been in the hospital three times in the past year, every one a 
horrible experience, and the only way they will ever get me admitted is 
unconscious, and I'm thinking of getting Leslie's "don't you dare touch me" 
tattoo.

Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co. PA

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Racial profiling is an issue that police have to train their officers on.
Then again, officers have to use common sense and in some areas, especially,
blacks, asians or whites are probably more likely to be up to no good and
common sense tells officers to be suspect.
Now, I'm not so sure how this incident is even considered racial profiling.
The officer responded to a break in call, found people in the house and
asked them to identify themselves. That's what I'd want to happen if it were
my house.

And like Lynn said, you don't mouth off to a cop. That goes for white cop
and black cops. you just keep your mouth shut, even if they have an
attitude.

Now Gates and other black leaders need to set an example. The example he has
set is to scream "race" when you feel threatened. That's not smart.

The black community needs to drop the "African" and identify as Americans.
My family has been here just as long and I don't identify as English
American. It's still early and first term, but I was hoping that Obama would
challenge the black community to pull themselves up from within. The big
problems facing black America are the break down of the family unit, the
high percentage of unwed mothers, asses hanging out of pants and people that
have lived for generations on welfare.

Obama needs to challenge the black community to make real changes in
attitude and that starts with people like Gates that want to be leaders in
that community.

Rob - Va