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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Oh dear Lynn,,,, I'm afraid you and I will be added to the insurance company 
hit list.........
 
Doesn't anyone ever wonder where the money comes from to build those big 
beautiful huge skyscrapers that insurance companies build and occupy (and 
probably rent out a good portion for additional income)?  How about all them 
fancy executive bonuses...for those insurance execs?  And they wonder what 
really drives up medical care costs....
 
I suspect it really is a losing proposition for most people.  I can dropped 
out of the game last year as I can no longer afford health insurance either.  
I can however afford the rare times I actually need medical services, as lon 
as the government doesn't put a gun to my head to force me into their plan.  
I'm sure a lot of people aren't going to want to participate because they 
just flat out don't have the monthly cash flow.... and I'm positive that is 
why the government wants everyone's bank account numbers so they can FORCE at 
the point of the gun compliance.
 
Hmmmm, I suspect the insurance companies have been losing a lot of customers 
over the higher and higher premiums,,,,,,, and that they are behind forcing 
this legislation thru, and are padding the pockets of their favorite 
politicians.  This is an easy sell to those who think they are entitle to 
medical care for "free".  
 

 
 
 
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:



Insurance would be a money-losing investment for me, even if I COULD afford 
it.






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It was never about honesty. It has ALWAYS been about control. Elites taking 
care of us poor schlubs who are incapable of taking care of ourselves. 
Whether we want to be taken care of, or not... Thus, we are all told what we 
can, and can't do.

Ray







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--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Marie McHarry <mmcharry AT gmail.com> wrote:



Fortunately, you can all abstain from using the healthcare system and
won't need to worry about it.

Marie

?
?
?
We might be able to abstain from using healthcare servcies, but they will 
still
force us to pay for others to use it........
?
Because if you don't have healthcare "at any time during?the tax year" (i.e. a
month) or attempt to abstain from the entire healthcare 
system.................
Section 58 B.?TAX? ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE 
kicks
in.
?
Under 58B you are going to get taxed 2.5% of a modified?AGI in an amount not 
to
exceed the annual premiums paid across the country .......... to?help pay for
those who do sign up....? Modified under one section means that those people 
who
have invested in tax free municipal bonds, will have to include that interest
income as if it were taxable..
?
(In FL health insurance for me was over $650.00/month.? The same company and a
better policy in NM is $330 a month)....? So if I chose to forego health
insurance, in theory, if employed,?the 59B TAX PENALTY?could go up to the
national average of premiums, which is higher than my state....(round it off 
the
500 month, that is a $6000 increase in tax --- for what?)
?
There is an exemption for those members of religious sects that refuse medical
care....as long as your church certifies that you are activelyl practicing 
yada
yada......
?
People who don't have, don't want health insurance of any kind will have to 
pay
2.5% higher income tax --- a penalty for not swallowing the mandatory
governmentprogram hook line and sinker. ?I could care less if people don't 
have
heatlh insurance, as long as they don't expect me to pay for their medical
care.?

OK,,,,,,,,,,,,, so.... let's see.? A lot of people can only find part time 
work
- and in some cases part-time if they are lucky.? They can't afford premiums 
for
private, company offered or government sponsored........ and they will have to
pay higher taxes... On the other
 end are the super weathly who don't even have
health care because they can afford to pay.... they will also have to pay 2.5%
more in tax.
?
Whatever happened to STATES RIGHTS to self-determination ?
?
This government mandated plan is just plain dishonest.



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