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[bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

yes, the video Warren posted.  That was very interesting.  But, out here, a 
lot of desert ecologists would be against 'greening' the desert.  It is one 
of those eco-chain arguments.

Peaches grow here, (Wilcon AZ grows apples, differentr elevation/winter 
climate).  A lot of people pay big money to have their date palms removed.  
They can be messy in and of themselves and the d*mn pigeons that crowd around 
the date palms make them less than desitrable.  

Most everyone I know has citrus and/or figs, with large peach orchards 
formerly (now red-tiled-roofed, ugly-as-hell subdivisions)on the outskirts of 
the city.

I had my forty year old fig tree removed when I had other work done; it was a 
hard decision and I intended to plant another, but never did.  By the way, it 
is a losing battle with the birds over figs, even with bird netting, out here.

I also had dwarf peach trees when I first moved here, planted, them the first 
year, They are now gone, too; and when I did have them, once again , the 
birds got most of the fruit.

People have exotics here; tropicalslike bananas etc; but the misting , 
shading , and watering, in the summer, make it tougher.

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--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] ???
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 8:58 AM
> I have a few apple trees, but they aren't producing very
> well. There are 
> lots of abandoned orchards here, so I can go collect
> apples, but since they 
> aren't tended, they aren't the best...small and
> buggy. I have 2 pear trees 
> that produce all the pears I can use (I have a pantry full
> of pear butter). 
> One peach tree...not nearly enough; I love peaches. I have
> a small one 
> planted, but I'm thinking of buying another large
> potted one locally that 
> will produce next year. I also have the figs in the
> greenhouse, and I just 
> ordered a Lapin cherry (hardy sweet cherry...hard to find).
> 
> What sort of fruit trees grow in your climate? I'm sure
> apples wouldn't. I 
> love figs, and I always thought date palms would be fun.
> Did you see the 
> youtube video that someone posted about Greening the
> Desert? Lots of 
> posibilities...that kind of greening probably cools and
> humidifies the whole 
> area, allowing a wider variety of plants.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> Tioga Co. PA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bobf" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] ???
> 
> 
> > You said you already have access to plenty of apples. 
> What kind of 
> > trees?, if you don't mind.  I have always
> considered established fruit and 
> > nut trees a very attractiven quality when looking at
> properties, even a 
> > small orchard.  I only have citrus.  I did have a very
> old, large fig tree 
> > until a couple of years ago.
> >
> >
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> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> worth, including a few fruit and nut trees, coming
> later),
> >> from about 5
> >> different companies.
> >>
> >> Lynn Wigglesworth
> >> Tioga Co. PA
> >>
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