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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

I know there are coyote here, and have seen on a few rare occassions a loan 
coyote crossing the property.  The neighbor up the road (chickens, sheep, 
cows) keeps a donkey to protect them.
 
I thought I heard something somewhat nearby last night and was wondering if 
it was a coyote.  Note quite a wolf howl, but somewhat similar.
 
I went to town earlier this week and noticed 5 different carcass remains 
along the road - they look ripped up pretty bad, not in the manner of being 
hit by a car.  On one corner I got out and looked and there were actually 2 
different animals, a cat for sure, and I'm not quite sure what the other 
other was, could have been a dog, but the remaining fur didn't look like a 
dog either.  
 
I figure to protect the chickens I'm going to have to bury wire just under 
the ground to keep them from digging under, and wire across the top to keep 
them from jumping in.
 


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People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, 
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Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder 
respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” ~ George 
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--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:

From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Coyotes
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 10:55 AM

On Jan 21, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Marie McHarry wrote:

> I have nothing against shooting coyotes, but it's not terribly
> effective in protecting livestock.

I suspect it is also not terribly effective in reducing area coyote  
populations. Nature always fills a void. Populations of all animals  
ebb and flow with food supply.

Two or three good dogs and well-fenced poultry are likely adequate  
protection for most homesteads. Consider that coyotes also keep down  
populations of various critters that you likely do not want in your  
garden, like rabbits, or in your house, like mice and rats.

Personally, I have always enjoyed their musical productions.

Gene GeRue
www.RURALIZE.com




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I became confused when I heard these terms  with reference to the word 
'service'. 

Internal Revenue 'Service' 
U.S. Postal   'Service' 
Telephone 'Service' 
'Service' Stations
Cable  'Service'  
Civil 'Service' 
Customer 'Service' 
State, City &  County  Public 'Service' 
 

This is not what I  thought 'service' meant. 
 
But today, I overheard two farmers from Calhoun talking, and one of them said 
he had hired a bull to come 'service' a few cows.   BAM!!!  It all came into 
focus. Now I understand what all those 'service' agencies are doing to us.
 
I hope you are now as enlightened as I am. 
<BG>

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> I figure to protect the chickens I'm going to have to bury wire just under 
> the ground to keep them from digging under, and wire across the top to keep 
> them from jumping in.
>

I have coyotes and foxes after my animals amongst others. A couple of
years ago I got a Great Pyrenees LGD. She came with my goat herd, as
an extra add on. I didn't want her at first, but finally relented and
took her. I really didn't think that a LGD would really do what they
are supposed to do.

I can tell you Furley is worth her considerable weight in gold. She
didn't know chickens when she came here, but learned quickly that they
are a thing to protect. the only time I lose chickens is when they
sneak under the fence and she can't to where they are.

We have a thing that anything we want to keep goes in the pasture with
Furley at night, including setting hens and hens with chicks. She puts
up with the pigs (has even made friends) and all the goat craziness.
She even guards the guineas and when they are out in the wood
squawking, she is right there.

Furley gets the best and meatiest bones around here.

Rob - Va